Borgeson Gear Box
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From: Ann Arbor Mi
Borgeson Gear Box
I have been thinking about installing a Borgeson gear box and have a question for those who have. Do you install a steering shock absorber? I have stock P\S now and don't know if I would have to buy one?
Also in one of the other threads somebody had a u-joint instead of a rag joint but all I can find is the rag joint..
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Also in one of the other threads somebody had a u-joint instead of a rag joint but all I can find is the rag joint..
Keep on vetting!
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For a Borgeson style recirc ball box, all I have ever seen is a rag joint from the factories.....but in case of a rack, it's been U joints....
when doing MY rack install 8 years ago, I used a rag in between 2 U joints...not knowing WHAT to do, but it's still working...so I leave well enough alone....
Just remember one thing, to loosen the bottom two column flange bolts to allow the column to move to a more center on position with the new box....if the angle is off a hair, it's not so bad...but those centers need be the same spot laterally and vertically....
when doing MY rack install 8 years ago, I used a rag in between 2 U joints...not knowing WHAT to do, but it's still working...so I leave well enough alone....
Just remember one thing, to loosen the bottom two column flange bolts to allow the column to move to a more center on position with the new box....if the angle is off a hair, it's not so bad...but those centers need be the same spot laterally and vertically....
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Borgeson has U joints that will work and I'm sure they will sell you one. ...but they will advise you to use the rag joint for street use, which is what I did and am quite pleased. Flaming River has a variety of u joints as well.
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Borgeson makes really nice u-joints and even make some with urethane in them as vibration reducers. They've got steel and stainless steel versions for show.
I used a u-joint due to the #7 header tube was just too high on the Hooker 2-1/8" headers combined with the .600" raised port heads to clear the factory style rag joint.
You don't need any shock absorber. Just install the box and go.
JIM
I used a u-joint due to the #7 header tube was just too high on the Hooker 2-1/8" headers combined with the .600" raised port heads to clear the factory style rag joint.
You don't need any shock absorber. Just install the box and go.
JIM
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From: Rotonda FL
The Borgeson number for their stainless u-joint is 114350. It can be ordered from Summit for approx $90. Using the u-joint means that you will have to collapse the steering approx another inch.
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From: meraux LA
I just did the conversion a few weeks ago. I can't believe I wanted 20 years before I put PS on my vette. SOOOOO much easer to drive. You remove the shock absorber. I used the rag joint , but I will be changing to the u joint. I don't like how close the headers are to the joint, I have maybe 1/4".
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I just did the conversion a few weeks ago. I can't believe I wanted 20 years before I put PS on my vette. SOOOOO much easer to drive. You remove the shock absorber. I used the rag joint , but I will be changing to the u joint. I don't like how close the headers are to the joint, I have maybe 1/4".
