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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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I'm restoring a '80 C3, and just picked up a 2004r to go in it. Originally it had a TH350.

It's my understanding that to mount up, the only different part I'll need is a crossmember for a TH400, and the 2004r will bolt right to it. Is this correct?
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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I just did the same conversion in a 78. All i needed to do was unbolt a bracket off of the TH350 crossmember the the 200/4R bolted right to the stock crossmember. I did have some issues with the exhaust system fitting though. Had to take it to a muffler shop that had a bender because the pan on the 200 is wider. Its a great conversion though, you will really like it, makes the car great on the e-way.
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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I hope I'm not Hijacking the thread, but isn't the 200R4 computer controller? I've got a 400 in mine with a 373 rear end. I'd love to do the swap..
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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but isn't the 200R4 computer controller?
No, it is not.
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by shamby
I hope I'm not Hijacking the thread, but isn't the 200R4 computer controller? I've got a 400 in mine with a 373 rear end. I'd love to do the swap..
Nope...only need 12v to use the lockup converter...
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Do you have to change the drive shaft length when going from a TH400 to 200r4.
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Yes. But not for a TH350.
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich's'78
Yes. But not for a TH350.
No you do not change the driveshaft length when replacing a -400 with a 200-4R.. All you change is the 200-4R yoke to TH350 yoke and the front u-joint. It then bolts right in...

I am pretty sure the driveshaft must be shortened for a TH400 to a 700R4..

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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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So the 200R4 is the same length as the TH350? Does this mean I can drop in a 200r4 into my 78 Camaro without shortening the driveshaft? I would really like an overdrive transmission in my daily drive Z28.
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Originally Posted by MakoShark72
No you do not change the driveshaft length when replacing a -400 with a 200-4R.. All you change is the 200-4R yoke to TH350 yoke and the front u-joint. It then bolts right in...

I am pretty sure the driveshaft must be shortened for a TH400 to a 700R4..

I think you intended to say that you change the TH400 yoke to the TH350/TH2004r yoke.

The crossmember is different for a TH400 than for a TH350/2004r, but it might not take much to make it work.
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Originally Posted by jordan89
So the 200R4 is the same length as the TH350? Does this mean I can drop in a 200r4 into my 78 Camaro without shortening the driveshaft? I would really like an overdrive transmission in my daily drive Z28.
Yep, it's a hot swap. Check out the posts over on NastyZ28.com. That swap is done all the time.
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Originally Posted by dstaley
I think you intended to say that you change the TH400 yoke to the TH350/TH2004r yoke.

The crossmember is different for a TH400 than for a TH350/2004r, but it might not take much to make it work.
What I intended to say is that you need a TH350 yoke to slide onto the 200-4R tailshaft. And then it takes a special U-joint...

And the crossmember , though maybe different, requires NO WORK when swapping out the TH400 for the 200-4R...bolts right in...
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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dstaley
Yep, it's a hot swap. Check out the posts over on NastyZ28.com. That swap is done all the time.
I'm going to keep an eye out for a 200-4R tranny.
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Jordan89 check out Ebaby item number 180496283948. I would think that's a pretty good deal..
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Originally Posted by shamby
Do you have to change the drive shaft length when going from a TH400 to 200r4.
No, I have one in my 73. You just have to change the front yoke and u-joint.
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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Dang, seems like for no more the 1500 bucks and very little work you could get an overdrive transmission. I would think an OD would greatly improve the drivability and the performance of our cars. Sorry darefugee to get of the subject.
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Originally Posted by shamby
Dang, seems like for no more the 1500 bucks and very little work you could get an overdrive transmission. I would think an OD would greatly improve the drivability and the performance of our cars. Sorry darefugee to get of the subject.
1600 rpm's at 60mph....with 3.08's...low 20's mpg...close to the same TH400 ratio's in 1st, 2nd, and D... and 0.67 in 4th!

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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Swapping the Bowtie Overdrives 200 4R, stage 2, in place of the TH350, was one of the BEST modifications I did on the '80. Fast and firm shifts, and .67 overdrive. 2200 RPM at 70MPH.
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13 year ago I did a 700 swap into my '72 350 muncie shark, had to shorten the drive shaft, went to a 200 4r as a much better suited to the car as the 336 diffy made the 700 first gear almost useless, and the 200 holds overdrive at WOT also where the 700 refused to do that....
not only that but the 200 is some 50 lbs lighter then the 700, and the pan is narrower,....

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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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BTW, those of you that mentioned changing the yoke, did you change to a stock style yoke with u joint straps, or did you go to a snap ring type? Or does it even matter? I'm finding the snap ring type are easier to find. Doing this conversion now, thanks.
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