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Old May 14, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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I am working on a set of aluminum heads (Fastburn GM) for my 383 build.
I need springs to match up to a hydraulic roller cam (Comp).
It specs for the Comp 26918 in the beehive series. They sell in the $175 dollar range and are basically the same as the LS1 beehive springs.
But Lunati has the 74818 series at same specs and they can be as low as $130.

How do you guys view Lunati vs Comp?
And how about using LS1 HP replacement springs for same application?

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Old May 14, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Both companies sell high quality stuff. Neither of them are making their own springs.
The spring rate on the Comp springs is 372 lbs/in
The spring rate on the Lunati springs is 313 lbs/in
Since you have a Comp cam, & they spec'ed the springs I would run the Comp springs.
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do not buy pot metal cam shafts..... like what CC sells on all their cheap sets
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Originally Posted by DRIVESHAFT
Both companies sell high quality stuff. Neither of them are making their own springs.
The spring rate on the Comp springs is 372 lbs/in
The spring rate on the Lunati springs is 313 lbs/in
Since you have a Comp cam, & they spec'ed the springs I would run the Comp springs.
Thanks for your post but the spring rate on the 918 is 313. The 981 is 347. According to Summit's catalog.

Here is the cam I have:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-12-601-8/

I plan on using the 918 specs as I want to go with the .600 lift capability. The 981 has only .525 lift capability.

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do not buy pot metal cam shafts..... like what CC sells on all their cheap sets
I listed my cam in post above.
What is your opinion of this one for a 383, 11-1 CR, alum heads 62cc, Edelbrock Air-Gap, Street Avenger 780cfm, headers and 2.5" exhaust. Manual 5 or 6 spd and 4.11 rear?

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Originally Posted by bmans vette
I listed my cam in post above.
What is your opinion of this one for a 383, 11-1 CR, alum heads 62cc, Edelbrock Air-Gap, Street Avenger 780cfm, headers and 2.5" exhaust. Manual 5 or 6 spd and 4.11 rear?

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my first 383 roller motor had 232/240 112 with 11-1 CR and it was on the verge of detonation all the time with unlead premium 93. I upped the cam to 236/242 112 and it runs like a charm to this day.

The dynamic compression ratio really comes into play when you have big flowing heads and cam timing that fill the cylinders. I'm talking about roller cams. They do such a good job of filling the cylinders that detonation is a problem. you can't compare a late model injected computer comtrolled roller engine to our old non-knock sensored 383 build. You do not have the computer retarding your timing in .5 milisec and richening the A/F
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Originally Posted by bmans vette
Thanks for your post but the spring rate on the 918 is 313. The 981 is 347. According to Summit's catalog.
Thats interesting. On Comps online store they list them as 372 lbs/in http://www.compperformancegroupstore...egory_Code=BEE
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Personally I wouldn't use that cam with it's 107 LSA, not a fan of that Thumper line either.
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As for which brand, I've used a good deal of Comp and Lunati product over the years (not just because I'm located only minutes away from both) and I've never had a quality issue either, but IMCO you really need to stick fairly close to the installed spring pressure and spring rate recommended by whatever manufacturer designs a cam you are going to plug in.

FWIW, I somewhat agree with Scott's comment, as I'm not a fan of tight LSA's unless a specific purpose dedicated build actually calls for it, and IMHO few, if any, street engines do so. Then again, I don't know everything about your application...

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Originally Posted by DRIVESHAFT
Thats interesting. On Comps online store they list them as 372 lbs/in http://www.compperformancegroupstore...egory_Code=BEE
Very interesting indeed.
I noticed that the max lift is different also.
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Originally Posted by Scott Marzahl
Personally I wouldn't use that cam with it's 107 LSA, not a fan of that Thumper line either.
I know the LSA is tight.
This is a street machine.
Would you go with 110-112 instead?
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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
As for which brand, I've used a good deal of Comp and Lunati product over the years (not just because I'm located only minutes away from both) and I've never had a quality issue either, but IMCO you really need to stick fairly close to the installed spring pressure and spring rate recommended by whatever manufacturer designs a cam you are going to plug in.

FWIW, I somewhat agree with Scott's comment, as I'm not a fan of tight LSA's unless a specific purpose dedicated build actually calls for it, and IMHO few, if any, street engines do so. Then again, I don't know everything about your application...

Txs for your post.
The build is for street machine primarily.
Additional info - totally forged bottom with 6.0" rods and SRP pistons flat tops with 4cc and .041 MLS head gasket. 4 bolt main and ARP studs both on heads and mains.
Already have retrofit hyd rollers by Comp and cam. Can easily swap out cam at this point.
Suggestions for other retro-fit cam for this usage?
Have not assembled heads as Springs / matching cam is the final piece of the puzzle.
Txs to all for your input.


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