Head Bolts???
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Drifting
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From: Dandridge TN
Head Bolts???
Just need a little reassurance. I am putting my heads back on and need some info. Which head bolts need to have non-hardening sealer on the threads and which ones don't, and how do I determine where the ones with the non-hardening sealer go? Have I confused anyone yet. :crazy: Also, if the head gasket don't say which way is up does it matter which way it goes?
Thanks,
Steve
Thanks,
Steve
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Re: Head Bolts??? (Steve Adkins)
Steve:
You didn't specify engine, but in general:
1. You put sealer on bolts that go into the water jacket area.
2. Head gaskets will generally only line up one way with all the various bolt, oil passage, and coolant holes, etc.
I'm not professional, or particularly experienced, at engine work, but this has been my experience the few times I've done it.
You didn't specify engine, but in general:
1. You put sealer on bolts that go into the water jacket area.
2. Head gaskets will generally only line up one way with all the various bolt, oil passage, and coolant holes, etc.
I'm not professional, or particularly experienced, at engine work, but this has been my experience the few times I've done it.
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Re: Head Bolts??? (Steve Adkins)
All the head bolts should get a non hardening sealer, and if the head gasket isn't marked this side up it probably dosen't matter :cheers:
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Re: Head Bolts??? (yellow 72)
Isn't it true that you can use anti-sieze on the threads that go into the water jacket area? I will be getting my heads back from the machine shop soon and just want to make sure anti-sieze can be used on the threads.
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Re: Head Bolts??? (Steve Adkins)
The ones that go into or around the water jacket are the ones that need sealer. Just for grins stop by the local speed shop engine builder and talk to the guy that builds them all day and get his opinion.
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Re: Head Bolts??? (bigvette1)
The ones that go into or around the water jacket are the ones that need sealer. Just for grins stop by the local speed shop engine builder and talk to the guy that builds them all day and get his opinion.
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Re: Head Bolts??? (ylose)
I used ARP rod bolts on mine. I bought mine through the machinist and he said that they are the best out there. Kinda hard not to listen to a guy that has been machining engines for over 35 years! :yesnod:
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Re: Head Bolts???
bence
never use anti-seize on head bolts!
anti-sieze is thick oil with ground up glass: when used on an exhaust bolt, the oil burns off, and the glass does the anti-s part.
It will leak if used on a head bolt imo, though i never tried it.
never use anti-seize on head bolts!
anti-sieze is thick oil with ground up glass: when used on an exhaust bolt, the oil burns off, and the glass does the anti-s part.
It will leak if used on a head bolt imo, though i never tried it.
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Re: Head Bolts??? (drives61)
drives61:
It says in my "How To Rebuild Big Block Chevys" book to use anti-sieze :confused:. So the majority says permatex #2? What do you guys think about anti-sieze?
It says in my "How To Rebuild Big Block Chevys" book to use anti-sieze :confused:. So the majority says permatex #2? What do you guys think about anti-sieze?
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Re: Head Bolts??? (bence13_33)
Shane, I wouldn't use anti-seize on the head, intake, rocker, etc. bolts
or studs. It's not really what it's made for.
I will be the odd-man out and say to use ARP thread sealer. I dunno -
it might cost a couple bucks more, but if you're using ARP hardware
why not trust 'em and use their lube and sealer?
or studs. It's not really what it's made for.
I will be the odd-man out and say to use ARP thread sealer. I dunno -
it might cost a couple bucks more, but if you're using ARP hardware
why not trust 'em and use their lube and sealer?
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Re: Head Bolts??? (drives61)
bence
never use anti-seize on head bolts!
anti-sieze is thick oil with ground up glass: when used on an exhaust bolt, the oil burns off, and the glass does the anti-s part.
It will leak if used on a head bolt imo, though i never tried it.
never use anti-seize on head bolts!
anti-sieze is thick oil with ground up glass: when used on an exhaust bolt, the oil burns off, and the glass does the anti-s part.
It will leak if used on a head bolt imo, though i never tried it.
I don't know what kind of anti-seize your usin' but the stuff I have is made by NEVER-SEEZ, it contains pure nickel and is rated to 2600* but you can't get it at Wal-Mart :cheers:
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Re: Head Bolts??? (Steve Adkins)
Sealer on all and most quality head gaskets are marked "top" on the side that goes towards the head :D
Anti-sieze is a bad idea for head bolts.
Why not switch to studs while you have it apart? Stronger and generally more accurate torque (with quality studs). Seal the block end and oil the other for better torque readings..... :cool:
Anti-sieze is a bad idea for head bolts.
Why not switch to studs while you have it apart? Stronger and generally more accurate torque (with quality studs). Seal the block end and oil the other for better torque readings..... :cool: