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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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Ok---I put a long style L88 hood on my '70. Windshield wipers were working before I took off the WS wiper door and grill. Plugged the vacuum lines and put a jumper wire where the WS wiper override switch (under sterring column) was. Wipers do not work. Any ideas?
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Did you jumper the door switch under the hood ?
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I may be mistaken but I don't think you should have the over-ride switch jumped, just the limit switch as I mentioned in your other thread.

The over-ride switch is designed to stop the wiper motor so that you can change the blades. Jumping it is sure to cause the wiper motor not to work.

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I may be mistaken but I don't think you should have the over-ride switch jumped, just the limit switch as I mentioned in your other thread.

The over-ride switch is designed to stop the wiper motor so that you can change the blades. Jumping it is sure to cause the wiper motor not to work.
sounds like a reasonable thing NOT to do
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Did you jumper the door switch under the hood ?
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Is this the switch with 3 wires going to it? Which wires do I jumper
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The limit switch should only have two wires.

Here is a picture from my '68, my index finger is pointing to the limit switch and you can see the connector from the switch.
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The connector ( T shaped 2 wire ) you need to jumper is the one on the left that plugs into to limit switch, it comes out of the taped harness in the background and one of the wires loop into the 3 prong connector on the right.

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Originally Posted by DZRick
The limit switch should only have two wires.

Here is a picture from my '68, my index finger is pointing to the limit switch and you can see the connector from the switch.
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The connector ( T shaped 2 wire ) you need to jumper is the one on the left that plugs into to limit switch, it comes out of the taped harness in the background and one of the wires loop into the 3 prong connector on the right.
thanks Rick-these pictures are a geat help. As soon as I can get to it, I'll do as you suggest. Thanks again
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thanks Rick-these pictures are a geat help. As soon as I can get to it, I'll do as you suggest. Thanks again
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If you bypass the over-ride switch under the dash you won't be able to interrupt the motor for blade service.

On your car the T connector is the same as Ricks picture but you won't have the three wire connector (68 is different) you'll have a single connector on a red wire. So just make sure you have power in that red wire going in the back side of the motor. You'll find a simple schematic on this PDF.

http://willcoxcorvette.com/repairand...elp.php?hID=95
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thanks Rick-these pictures are a geat help. As soon as I can get to it, I'll do as you suggest. Thanks again
Rick--success ;-)
Thanks for your help. Now if I can get my Son's working on his '69 with the same problem, I will be very happy.

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Rick--success ;-)
Thanks for your help. Now if I can get my Son's working on his '69 with the same problem, I will be very happy.

Joe
I think my motor is shot-I followed the Wilcox diagnostic and the motor just clicks.

The other weird thing is that the motor doesn't have a terminal for the ground wire like yours.

And once I do get the (a) motor working, I'm not sure that the wiper linkage is going to clear the lower edge of the windshield. Time to come over and look at your car again (second time today).

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69..

If you think the motor is bad, remove all the wires from the wiper motor.. raise the wiper door and put some water on the windshield.

Then run you some extra wires and do the bench test on the car.. Here is how..



If the motor runs, then it's in the car! If the motor fails you know where to start!



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69..

If you think the motor is bad, remove all the wires from the wiper motor.. raise the wiper door and put some water on the windshield.

Then run you some extra wires and do the bench test on the car.. Here is how..



If the motor runs, then it's in the car! If the motor fails you know where to start!



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Thanks, I already did all that following your diagnostic procedure from your website. When I run the test for the high and low speed operation, the motor just gives an intial click and then nothing.

edit: I did a little more testing and it seems that the motor works, but the terminals on the motor have an intermittent connection. When I jiggled the terminals a bit the #3 ground would arc a bit and the motor would run.

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Are you sure you used all independent wires.. grounds included? If so.. yep, you have a bad motor.

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That's not a real hard fix.. depending on whats loose... If the wire is loose a drop of solder might do the trick... but if the terminal is loose in the holder.. then you do have an issue.

As you can see from the picture below, the terminal is held in place with rivet in the plastic holder! You might just have a problem with one of the wires soldered on and soldering can be a challenge! If you get the terminal to hot you'll melt the plastic around the rivet.

If the wires get hot, the rivet can melt in the plastic and make the terminal move but they usually still make enough contact to run properly. Are you sure the problem is not in the female part of the connector?

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Are you sure the problem is not in the female part of the connector?
This was with the female connector disconnected, using jumper wires from 12V and ground directly to #2 and #3 terminals on the motor as in your diagnostic. Jiggling the #3 terminal would cause the motor to start and stop, with a small arc to the ground strap running to the motor mounting hole.
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Originally Posted by Willcox Corvette
That's not a real hard fix.. depending on whats loose... If the wire is loose a drop of solder might do the trick... but if the terminal is loose in the holder.. then you do have an issue.

As you can see from the picture below, the terminal is held in place with rivet in the plastic holder! You might just have a problem with one of the wires soldered on and soldering can be a challenge! If you get the terminal to hot you'll melt the plastic around the rivet.

If the wires get hot, the rivet can melt in the plastic and make the terminal move but they usually still make enough contact to run properly. Are you sure the problem is not in the female part of the connector?

Not to Highjack this thread, but what happens if the 20.6 OHM resistor is broken and you remove it? Everything still seems to work. If it is an issue where do you find one of these?
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