C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Antenna won't go down

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 05:22 PM
  #1  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default Antenna won't go down

Posted this in another forum...no luck.

I did a bunch of research on this via the search function. I discovered that the blue wire on my aftermarket radio was not connected to the yellow wire coming out of the antenna relay. I hooked the yellow wire to the blue wire. When I turned the radio on, I heard the relay click and listened to the new antenna go up. When I turned the radio on, I again hear click, but the antenna stays up.

so...I took a set of leads directly from the battery to the wires on the new antenna to make sure it wasn't the antenna. As directed in another thread, I alternated +/- leads to gray/green/white. The antenna goes up and down correctly.

What would cause the antenna to default in the up position? Orange and black from antenna relay appear to be correctly connected.

thanks.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 06:02 PM
  #2  
mj9311's Avatar
mj9311
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
From: bethpage NY
Default

i bought my 76 off a buddy of mine and he didnt like that the antenna wouldnt go down so he cut it off with a hacksaw
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 06:07 PM
  #3  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

at this stage of the game, chasing electrons, a hacksaw is sounding good. But, after chaning the heat/ac switch, cigarette lighter and attaching the blue wire to the yellow wire, I'm emotionally invested in the power antenna.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 06:42 PM
  #4  
mj9311's Avatar
mj9311
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
From: bethpage NY
Default

i understand that i just invested in a wire for my mp3 player untill i actually have the energy to work on that... but maybe i will go mess with that now i did but a universal antenna and just plopped it in the hole but i am doing a motor build and i do have some time before i get my block back.... hmmm
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 07:34 PM
  #5  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

no fun moving the muffler over to yank the old antenna. Less fun working the wiring harness through the grommet behind the speaker...if you want to do it right.

81, btw.

Last edited by MrMootsie; Sep 20, 2010 at 07:35 PM. Reason: clarity.
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 08:37 PM
  #6  
KapsSA's Avatar
KapsSA
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,371
Likes: 223
From: Beecher Illinois
Default

what happens if you simply disconnect the blue wire from the yellow?

If it goes down then the blue is keeping it hot.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 07:29 AM
  #7  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

nothing was happening. I also didn't hear the relay click.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 09:06 AM
  #8  
jdp6000's Avatar
jdp6000
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 3
From: Aurora Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by MrMootsie
Posted this in another forum...no luck.

I did a bunch of research on this via the search function. I discovered that the blue wire on my aftermarket radio was not connected to the yellow wire coming out of the antenna relay. I hooked the yellow wire to the blue wire. When I turned the radio on, I heard the relay click and listened to the new antenna go up. When I turned the radio on, I again hear click, but the antenna stays up.

so...I took a set of leads directly from the battery to the wires on the new antenna to make sure it wasn't the antenna. As directed in another thread, I alternated +/- leads to gray/green/white. The antenna goes up and down correctly.

What would cause the antenna to default in the up position? Orange and black from antenna relay appear to be correctly connected.

thanks.
I can only go by the factory wiring,

I can't comment on the blue thats aftermarket. Are you sure thats the antenna wire for this radio?

The rest of the wires are all correct. Green, grey, white, go from the relay to the antenna. There should also be a black ground coming out of the relay.

You don't mention if the orange wire is live. It runs from the CTSY CLS 20 amp fuse in the panel to the relay. It is always hot. This is the one that controls the down function. See if the orange is there and always hot.

Some of the newer antennas don't need the factory relay. Or come with there own relay. The relay in the car may not work with this antenna or you may be trying to use it with 2 relays inline, one in the car and one on the antenna....depending on what type of antenna you have. Is it the factory antenna or has it been replaced.

Jim

Last edited by jdp6000; Sep 21, 2010 at 09:10 AM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 09:27 AM
  #9  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for the reply. It's a replacement antenna from Zip.
http://www.zip-corvette.com/ProductD...GR-SR&CTitle=&

It's unclear to me whether or not it is already equipped with relay. I have the Pioneer wiring diagram for the radio, and it indicates that the blue wire is for antenna power. The orange wire is connected to the radio wire which requires constant hot. It appears to be correctly connected. If it isn't connected correctly, would the yellow wire from the antenna relay cause the relay to click when the radio is turned on/off?

thanks. This is a useful discussion.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 09:41 AM
  #10  
jdp6000's Avatar
jdp6000
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 3
From: Aurora Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by MrMootsie
Thanks for the reply. It's a replacement antenna from Zip.
http://www.zip-corvette.com/ProductD...GR-SR&CTitle=&

It's unclear to me whether or not it is already equipped with relay. I have the Pioneer wiring diagram for the radio, and it indicates that the blue wire is for antenna power. The orange wire is connected to the radio wire which requires constant hot. It appears to be correctly connected. If it isn't connected correctly, would the yellow wire from the antenna relay cause the relay to click when the radio is turned on/off?

thanks. This is a useful discussion.
Are you sure the its the relay clicking. I have never listened to mine. The blue (in your case)activates the relay circuit to up the antenna. Once you cut power off to the blue buy switching the radio off the circuit is powered by the orange to move the antenna down. Instead of turning the radio off next time disconnect the blue and see if the relay clicks, maybe power is still trickling through your blue....it has to be completely dead when the radio is off. With the blue disconnected see if the orange is live.

The grey and white is the up and down power supply. I don't remember which is which. Easy to check. When you turn the radio on power goes from the blue to your relay then through either the grey or white....identify which one. Once you have figured that out with the radio off the orange should be powering the other or those two wires. Its only for the length of time it takes for the antenna to go up or down,

Its something really simple here, think it through,

See if the antenna has another relay....after market somewhere along the line....some of these new ones have it right on the mast shaft....look underneath the quarter panel....see if you see one.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 09:49 AM
  #11  
jdp6000's Avatar
jdp6000
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 3
From: Aurora Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by MrMootsie
Thanks for the reply. It's a replacement antenna from Zip.
http://www.zip-corvette.com/ProductD...GR-SR&CTitle=&

It's unclear to me whether or not it is already equipped with relay. I have the Pioneer wiring diagram for the radio, and it indicates that the blue wire is for antenna power. The orange wire is connected to the radio wire which requires constant hot. It appears to be correctly connected. If it isn't connected correctly, would the yellow wire from the antenna relay cause the relay to click when the radio is turned on/off?

thanks. This is a useful discussion.
Looked at your antenna link. Its seems thats the correct antenna it suggests it uses the factory relay. No external relay is used. So thats good.

What do you mean by the orange is connected to the radio, I know you need power to hold presets but are you running an orange out of the radio to the relay too?

You relay could be fried. It may not be switching over. Replace it its cheap.

Last edited by jdp6000; Sep 21, 2010 at 09:54 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:21 AM
  #12  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

Bubba wired the orange into the radio to hold presets, I believe. The orange from the relay is also wired into the radio hot.

I've not seen a link for just the relay. I'll hunt.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 11:06 AM
  #13  
jdp6000's Avatar
jdp6000
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 3
From: Aurora Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by MrMootsie
Bubba wired the orange into the radio to hold presets, I believe. The orange from the relay is also wired into the radio hot.

I've not seen a link for just the relay. I'll hunt.
I've seem bubba cause these problems before. Instead of trying to figure out what wires to pull and if bubba caused the problem with the orange. Try this. Disconnect the orange at the relay and run a new wire from somewhere to the relay thats always hot. Try the radio. If the antenna works you will need to figure out the bubba nest.

Jim
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 12:22 PM
  #14  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

any good suggestion?
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 01:08 PM
  #15  
jdp6000's Avatar
jdp6000
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 3
From: Aurora Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by MrMootsie
any good suggestion?
For power? Take it off the lighter. You can run off the battery if you put a 20 amp fuse in line for safety. Or run a wire from the panel.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 01:11 PM
  #16  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

good idea. I just replaced that as well, with a spade connector. I still haven't found an antenna relay, without all the harness to go with it.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 08:03 PM
  #17  
KapsSA's Avatar
KapsSA
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,371
Likes: 223
From: Beecher Illinois
Default

Sounds like Bubba cut the orange power line to the antenna for power to the radio memory and didn't continue it on to the antenna relay.
I BELIEVE with the yellow powered by the radio lead the antenna will go up, but with no constant hot to the antenna it won't go back down.
The relay is located in the jack compartment for your year.
Pull the plug with the yellow and orange connectors noting which connector in the relay goes to the orange. Run a jumper wire direct to the battery + and to the orange contact at the relay. It should go down with the ignition or radio "off'. If so, contact the yellow contact with the jumper and see if it goes up. If not, contact BOTH yellow and orange and see if it goes up.
If so, run a hot lead to the orange terminal, either tapping into the original orange or I'd go to the fuse panel "batt' term. Use an inline fuse.

Last edited by KapsSA; Sep 21, 2010 at 08:06 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2010 | 08:33 AM
  #18  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

I'll tackle that on Saturday morning and let you know. Yanking the seat and carpet panel makes it a couple hour job start to finish. Thanks for the assist.
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:45 AM
  #19  
MrMootsie's Avatar
MrMootsie
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Default

didn't work....grrrr... I'm going to order a new harness and relay and replace the whole thing. It's worth the time. Is an 81 relay the same as the 80? It looks the same, but I can't find it on line.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Antenna won't go down





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:03 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE