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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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Need your sage advice. My 82 CE has developed a problem that I can't diagnose. Lately, when I drive it and then stop someplace, it doesn't
want to start again for some time. Eventually, within about an hour it cranks up and is good to go. Since this intermittent problem has started, my wife is afraid to ride with me for fear of being stuck away from home. Anyone have a similar problem???
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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I had a similar problem with my 1976. The carburetor was out of adjustment. That fixed it.

With the crossfire I would check to see if anything is out of adjustment. Since there are more electronics to that car I would also see if there are any wires under the hood that may be exposed due to the insulation shriking over time. That can cause the computer to not read things right.

Check the basics to make sure that there is a good connection at all points.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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explain what you mean by not cranking.does the starter try and start but the motor not run or does the starter not turn over after it gets hot .
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It turns over but doesn't fire. I don't want to crank it too long for fear of running down the battery.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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okay now you have to figure out if you are not getting spark or fuel .the next time it wont start.use a extra spark plug, pull off a spark plug wire and see if it is getting spark .with the air cleaner off look for fuel coming from the injectors.http://www.crossfire.homeip.net/index.php?act=idxthis is where i get my anwers on cross-fires.

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It turns over but doesn't fire. I don't want to crank it too long for fear of running down the battery.
Sounds like your ignition module is over heating and on the way out. That part is in the distributor. About $100.

This part http://www.ecklers.com/corvette-dist...1981-1991.html

don't forget the lithium grease. You need to paste it on the bottom of the module were it makes contact with the distributor to displace heat transfer. Failing to do this will result in another replacement in a few months.

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I just paid 40.00 local pasts store
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I just paid 40.00 local pasts store
Good Price, I bought mine at the dealer over 2 years ago and paid well over $100. Unfortunately I could find one anywhere else up here.

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you can go to autozone.com order it on line then pick it up at the store by 12oclock the next day I just went on their site it was 24.99
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Mine got to where I would drive it aprox 3 miles and then do the same thing. It was getting fuel but come to find out my TPS sensor was not at the .525 +- .075 where it should have been. I used a digital voltmeter and set it correctly and have not had that problem since.
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you can go to autozone.com order it on line then pick it up at the store by 12oclock the next day I just went on their site it was 24.99
No Autozone stores in Canada.
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Originally Posted by LaRastus
Mine got to where I would drive it aprox 3 miles and then do the same thing. It was getting fuel but come to find out my TPS sensor was not at the .525 +- .075 where it should have been. I used a digital voltmeter and set it correctly and have not had that problem since.
how did you set the Tps with a volt meter? I am not sure how to do this but I need to to it on the 82 crossfire ive been working on. any information would be helpful. thank you very much.
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Originally Posted by chronos51
how did you set the Tps with a volt meter? I am not sure how to do this but I need to to it on the 82 crossfire ive been working on. any information would be helpful. thank you very much.
Marcus

Here is how to do it....



http://www.crossfire.homeip.net/index.php?showtopic=79

Don't bother building the jumper harness. Use paperclips tape or attach them to the meter ends then insert right into the back of the harness connector. Set the meter down somewhere where you can see it. Loosen off the TPS screws and move until you get .525. Yo will notice that when you get .525 and go to tighten the bolt the setting may change....real sensitive. So lets say it moves by .20....set it at .505....then tighten and it should move to .525...just adjust for the play.

You do this with the car off but ignition on.

Make sure you use an automotive meter....not the warning to the right of the article....10 ohm impedence....

J

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Here is how to do it....



http://www.crossfire.homeip.net/index.php?showtopic=79

Don't bother building the jumper harness. Use paperclips tape or attach them to the meter ends then insert right into the back of the harness connector. Set the meter down somewhere where you can see it. Loosen off the TPS screws and move until you get .525. Yo will notice that when you get .525 and go to tighten the bolt the setting may change....real sensitive. So lets say it moves by .20....set it at .505....then tighten and it should move to .525...just adjust for the play.

You do this with the car off but ignition on.

Make sure you use an automotive meter....not the warning to the right of the article....10 ohm impedence....

J
ok. I gotcha. i had the ignition off. trying to set the timing as well. the wire i unpluged didnt stop the computer from controlling the timing. looks like I need to try a differant route.
thank you I appriciate it.
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Ignition module in the distributor (heat related), ECU problem, fuel pump.

First diagnose to see if you have any spark when the car "goes dead". If you do, then it's a fuel delivery problem. If no spark, it's a module or ECU, or 'general' ignition problem. If you have an induction coil type timing light, just hook it up to the connectors at the rear of the alternator (for 12v and ground), put the induction coil on one of the plug wires and try to start it. If the plug is getting spark, the light will flash with each signal. No flash....no spark.
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Turns out one of the camshaft lobes was totally flat. Since it already was taken apart, installed a Comp performance cam, Hooker headers, and dumped the crappy Crossfire mess and upgraded to Tuned Port Injection system. Starts immediately with mucho power. Horsepower at the wheels on the Dyno is about 280 and torque is well over 300.
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