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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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We balance for a lot of other shops in the area and from time to time we do put a mic on the jounals and we find that the journals are not very flat.

This is good info

http://www.youtube.com/user/cpmotors#p/u/3/mPwCsPik7KU
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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Thats a great video. It shows something Ive always believed in, that just because its new dont think that its right or perfect. Back when I worked in machine shops We would get Bowtie heads for people and redo the valve job and plain the heads. They were always warped somewhat. It usually took .02" to clean them up. My Dart 11 heads that was with My engine when I bought the car was run before He took everything apart. I had everything redone in motor and when the Guy went to regrind the valve seats He said all were perfect but one exhaust. He said the grind only touched 1/3 away around when He started. The heads supposedly came right off a pallet from Dart that was going to some race track, that they put these heads on and are race ready. That is a great video and I wish I had a grinder like that in My garage.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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I sent the 4340 4 inch stroker crank back to Eagle because it was not straight and bought from Callies. Last Eagle part I will ever buy

Good video, shows the Chinese are getting close
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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OK, Ill ask a dumb *** n00b question.

The guy is talking about 1-2 thou of an inch and that it needs to be cleaned up...

My question...how do you dress a grinding wheel to make sure it is completely flat and able to remove that 1-2 thou?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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My question is kinda the OPPOSITE of Jotto's above. If a crank is put on a grinder after manufacturing, to polish the journals then HOW IS IT POSSIBLE to get that hourglass shape on the journals? It does not make sense to me.

You've got a sanding belt, or a grinding wheel against a new journal. Since the grinding apparatus is moving, how could it possibly NOT grind the journal flat?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoPaul
My question is kinda the OPPOSITE of Jotto's above. If a crank is put on a grinder after manufacturing, to polish the journals then HOW IS IT POSSIBLE to get that hourglass shape on the journals? It does not make sense to me.

You've got a sanding belt, or a grinding wheel against a new journal. Since the grinding apparatus is moving, how could it possibly NOT grind the journal flat?
Most production crank companies will leave a coarse finish on the journals and when over polishing a crank it will take it out of the middle of the jouranl, There are very expensive crank polishers that will not taper when polishing.

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Here is a pic of bearings run with an Ohio taper crank shaft journals



Here is the link to look over and this pic is from page 5
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...hio+crankshaft[/quote]
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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OK, Ill ask a dumb *** n00b question.

The guy is talking about 1-2 thou of an inch and that it needs to be cleaned up...

My question...how do you dress a grinding wheel to make sure it is completely flat and able to remove that 1-2 thou?

Crank grinders have a dressing tool that will dress the wheel flat.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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It is what I have always felt and have done. Check everything! Never leave anything to chance.
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It is what I have always felt and have done. Check everything! Never leave anything to chance.
I disassemble oil pumps and lifters before installing.
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My buddy polished my brand new Callies crank and had to resize the big end of brand new Eagle 4340 H beam stroker rods
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
My buddy polished my brand new Callies crank and had to resize the big end of brand new Eagle 4340 H beam stroker rods
Alot of the Eagle rods when they are disassembled and retorqued they will change their shape and need resizing.

95% of the rods we buy are on the low side and to get are clearances we always will open them up to the high side and so far have never seen a set of rods yet that the pin bores did not need honing for proper clearance.
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