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Hello again. I was thinking of installing a chip in my 1981 Corvette. There are a few options. Some just bolt on and your done, others require a lower temperature thermostat, like 180 deg. My plan was to try to stay away from those and just go with the standard bolt on. Does anyone here have any experience with this and maybe can make a chip suggestion. I am curious to know if it is even worth it.
For those who need more information, I just did a complete tune up and carb overhaul, including the carb sensors. The tune up included AC Delco Rapidfire plugs, MSD 8.5 mm wires, MSD cap/rotor, Mallory 55000 v coil, Accel Ignition module, and K&N Air filter. The car runs quite well with those changes.
Last time I read anything on the chips for an 81 all it did was modify the fuel table for WOT and it would allow a 180 T-Stat. IMHO not even worth the price. Save your pennies and update the exhaust, that will give you more of a boost than the chip will and you will need it to support any other HP mods.
Thats exactly why I installed the chip, for wide open throttle performance and cooler running, so it did what I expected. I don't know if it's just my imagination, but I feel it runs better even at idle. My wife agrees with me.
I ran the power chip in my '81 for a while and did not notice that much of a change. But at the time my card wasn't adjusted correctly but that chip does nothing at low idle only make changes at higher RPM and WOT. I replaced and put back in my original chip, need that one to set everything correctly such as carb and sensors.
Thanks for the responses. I do have an upgraded 2.5 inch free flow exhaust minus headers. What other mods would you guys recomend? I was thinking about headers, but that gets hairy with correctly removing the emissions control items.
Thanks for the responses. I do have an upgraded 2.5 inch free flow exhaust minus headers. What other mods would you guys recomend? I was thinking about headers, but that gets hairy with correctly removing the emissions control items.
I'm with SIXFOOTER. I don't think you get anything noticeable from the chip upgrade on an 81. You already did the best bang for the buck change with the exhaust. Headers would help but are certainly a little harder if you want to retain the smog tubes. There was a set of Hedman headers that came with the smog tubes attached but they were never particularly easy to find. They may have been discontinued too.
After exhaust, the two things that I did to my 81 that made the biggest difference were heads and installing a 200 4R transmission. I don't think you need to go crazy with the heads. I had both a set of Summit heads and Edelbrock RPMs. 67 cc combustion chamber did nicely.
I wouldn't even bother changing the carb, distributor or computer unless they don't work. They'll support way more power than you'll likely produce without major mods. About the only usefull thing you loose is the ability to recurve your distributor. You can mimic a recurve by simply advancing your timing too.
The 81 already has headers with Smog Tubes.. I have a set for sale... The Calif 80 and the 50 State 81 came with Factory Shorty headers and I have a set for sale CHEAP,, One has a broken stud but should be an easy fix.
I know they look like a set of headers, but in comparison to a set of long tube headers these are no better than a set of cast iron exhaust manifolds when it comes to performance improvement. Even shorty headers are not very free flowing. A set of good long tubes go right on and give a good gain with a good set of pipes.
I think after all I have been through with this car, such as cam/lifters/timing chain/various pumps/ignition, i am going to leave it alone. I have come to the conclusion that 81 was not the best choice of vette to buy. None the less, I am proud of my work and thank everyone on this forum for their advice along the way. From here I will enjoy the car and search for something older that will be easier to modify and has little or no emission controls.
I think after all I have been through with this car, such as cam/lifters/timing chain/various pumps/ignition, i am going to leave it alone. I have come to the conclusion that 81 was not the best choice of vette to buy. None the less, I am proud of my work and thank everyone on this forum for their advice along the way. From here I will enjoy the car and search for something older that will be easier to modify and has little or no emission controls.
Thats why I just bought a all original 1979 C3 4speed.. NO computer! .. My 80 had one and it was a problem until I bypassed it.. MY C5 is a headache as well, but don't get me started. GM has discontinued the computers for the 97-01 C5.. If you loose one of the many computers, you are S-O-L!
I love my 79.. Its as basic as you can get.. The only electronic anything is the HEI!
I think after all I have been through with this car, such as cam/lifters/timing chain/various pumps/ignition, i am going to leave it alone. I have come to the conclusion that 81 was not the best choice of vette to buy. None the less, I am proud of my work and thank everyone on this forum for their advice along the way. From here I will enjoy the car and search for something older that will be easier to modify and has little or no emission controls.
I have an 81 and it was simple to chuck the smog stuff and computer controlled stuff and have a car that is as easy to work on as any Vette ever made. So don't give up on it without looking into the alternatives.
@81pilot........what do you suggest. I know about changing the headers, the dist, the carb and intake, but what about the computer. how do I manage the lock up for the torque converter? what else do I need to look at?
I have an 81 and it was simple to chuck the smog stuff and computer controlled stuff and have a car that is as easy to work on as any Vette ever made. So don't give up on it without looking into the alternatives.
My '81 has ceramic Hooker headers with Flowmaster dual exhaust.
The computer and smog stuff has also been removed and I'm very happy with the performance...and I'm also very happy with the power improvement.
@81pilot........what do you suggest. I know about changing the headers, the dist, the carb and intake, but what about the computer. how do I manage the lock up for the torque converter? what else do I need to look at?
No real need to change the intake. As far as the lockup goes there are a lot of good threads here about it if you search. It is as simple as a switch or like I did buy a B&M controller for it. Also I was able to find a low mileage Qjet of a 79 that only needed setup and works perfectly for dirt cheap. I also bought an HEI dist on Ebay and I followed Lars papers on setting up both the carb and distributor and timing and she purrs like a kitten till I nail it then those chambers roar like a Lion. All I was saying was to not give up on the 81 just because the computer stuff is giving you fits, look at the threads about it and you see both sides. Good Luck.
I ditched my computer and my whole motor and put in a 383 stroker, the converter does not lock up anymore but I don't really care I may put in a 200-4r this winter but I have no problems working onthe car and it performs wayyy better. The first mod I did was exhaust and that made a difference and now the bigger cubes makes it really fun to drive.
i have an 81 and it still has the ccc system on it, it made 320hp at the rear wheels and still needed alittle tuning done. the ccc system doesn't hurt performance at all if you know how to tune the carb. I love it becuase it runs perfect at wot and gets 22mpg on the freeway (2004r trans)
Finally!! Some "real world" data to support that the CCC system is not a "dog" due to its design. Should I assume that you kept the original electro/mechanical carb, but rejetted to meet the needs of the improved engine?
i have an 81 and it still has the ccc system on it, it made 320hp at the rear wheels and still needed alittle tuning done. the ccc system doesn't hurt performance at all if you know how to tune the carb. I love it becuase it runs perfect at wot and gets 22mpg on the freeway (2004r trans)
What all have you done to that engine to get that horsepower? I have done everything under the sun to mine without changing heads and there is no way I am at 320, maybe 250... just asking. By the way, I don't think the CCC system is bad at all, I have never said that, but when someone says they are selling the car(like the OP) because it won't run right, a simple option is to scrap the CCC. I have a TH350, no CCC and get 21 on the highway. And smooth as a babies butt at WOT too.