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If the heads have guideplates, then the pushrods need to be hardened. Stock GM pushrods for use without guideplates are not hardened.
Sorry but this is not true, yes some are harder than others but they are all "hardened" Don't think so? try cutting one and see. The stock push rods do go through a guide which is the slotted hole in the head that guides the rod. Exception is the Vortex heads which use the rocker arm with sides on them that go on the sides of the valve, and they requier longer valve stems above the valve retainer.
Last edited by Manuel Azevedo; Jan 10, 2011 at 12:32 PM.
Sorry but this is not true, yes some are harder than others but they are all "hardened" Don't think so? try cutting one and see. The stock push rods do go through a guide which is the slotted hole in the head that guides the rod. Exception is the Vortex heads which use the rocker arm with sides on them that go on the sides of the valve, and they requier longer valve stems above the valve retainer.
Well then, why is it if you use stock pushrods with steel guide plates, the pushrod will wear through where it contacts the guide plate?
The cast in guide is just that, a cast iron guide, not steel.
Well then, why is it if you use stock pushrods with steel guide plates, the pushrod will wear through where it contacts the guide plate?
The cast in guide is just that, a cast iron guide, not steel.
I did say there is different hardness of the rods, but they are all hardened. Two like metals do not wear well together. But if you look at any guide plate you will see how rough they are and that they all vary, this is the source of the rod wear in a lot of cases. Polish this area and also be sure and align them not just bolt them on. You also need to open the hole in the head where the rod comes through so as to not fight the top guide plate just added, this is one of the biggest mistakes made (not opening this hole up) when going to screw in studs and guides plates. The result is usually worn push-rods blamed on soft rods.
I did say there is different hardness of the rods, but they are all hardened.
And obviously there is a big difference in the degree of hardening between stock and "hardened" pushrods. Enough that it's inconsequential with stock push rods.
And obviously there is a big difference in the degree of hardening between stock and "hardened" pushrods. Enough that it's inconsequential with stock push rods.
Thanks for the help guys, But I guess I still don't know how to check if my pushrods I have now are hard enough to use with aluminum heads?
And obviously there is a big difference in the degree of hardening between stock and "hardened" pushrods. Enough that it's inconsequential with stock push rods.
Still not true big again the wear problems are from what I listed above, but one can/wikk believe what they will and I guess thats what makes things intersting in the world.