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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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I read Lars paint paper....seems logical to me. So after the fender cruncher I recently had I decided to paint my whole car. Gunna go with House of Kolors Kandy Apple red. So it means all kinds a stuff has to come off the car. All the years I thought my T-Tops were leaking. After pulling the windsheild trim off I find the winshield goop is all crumbly and I can pull the winshield off the frame..time to reset the windsheild. I am replacing the wavy front and rear bumpers with fiberglass ones from Wilcox....should be here any day. When I pulled the rear bumper off I found a magnetic hide a key box with the original keys in it...ignition, door lock and a key I guess was for the alarm? Any way the doors, hood,etc,etc, are all coming off. so i can paint door jams and such. I'm thinking I need to reinstall them before I shoot the color coat...or can I leave them off and paint all seperate.....i think I know the answer. One thing which I find strange in Lar's paint paper is he made no reference to how many beers it would take to paint a car. Cuz judging by his avitar pic he had one to many to be painting a car. I'm up to a 12 pack for 2 days
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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If you are new or even fairly new to painting I suggest anything but HOK paint. I used it for years but have decided its not worth the trouble. First off it is by far the most user unfriendly system there is. And when I say system, I mean it. You really need to use thier stuff. I have cleared with Dupont Chromaclear over the shimrin HOK bases, but as far as the rest the compatibility is marginal to nonexistent. Thier primers WILL craze if the base is contaminated at all. Others like PPG and Dupont are way more forgiving. Chromaclear by Dupont or even thier hot hues flash perfect and are easy to shoot the clear, and candies and both PPG and Dupont flow great. The HOK Kandies shoot nice if the base is perfect. Also the HOK clear takes eons to cure and stays very soft for a long period of time even with the faster hardener. You can cut and buff the DP and PPG within a couple of days without heat. HOK if done perfectly is stunning and the specialized paints like thier marbelizer is very cool, and can be used to make some wild patterns, but if you have used other paints, the pattern and the way the initial shots go down can be hard to tackle the first time. Just a little friendly advice, good luck!
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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You can (and should) paint the car disassembled if you have room and a full day to apply the paint. It is possible to get a reasonable result by painting jambs and edges one day and shooting the rest (assembled and carefully edge masked) at another time but to assure even coverage, perfect color match and consistent gloss it is strongly adviseable to paint the car with doors, hood etc. removed, on the same day and reassemble only after it is all cured. Differences in temperature, relative humidity, your technique and possibly the phase of the moon on different days can really affect what your paint looks like when done...removal of as many of those variables as possible is good insurance of a uniform, pleasing result.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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Where did you find the Lars paint paper?
I'm looking for some of his other papers as well.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sokoloka
Where did you find the Lars paint paper?
I'm looking for some of his other papers as well.
Interested
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 12:52 AM
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Where did you find the Lars paint paper?
I'm looking for some of his other papers as well.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 01:30 AM
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I don't know if this is the one the original poster was refering to but I found this in tech tips years ago...


https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...=111&TopicID=3
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yeah thats the paper
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I am by no means a paint expert. I have painted only about 10 cars/trucks. I have used ppg, dupont and summit racing paints. And yes the HOK involves a lot of steps. I did however buy all primer, sealer, basecoat,kandy,klear coat....etc. So if ii get all my prep as perfect as i can...hopefully it will come out good. I have a good dry sorce of air with plenty of volume and dry. I have a hvlp primer gun and a finish gun.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 08:37 AM
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be careful! even whispering the purged name of the unperson "lars" will bring down the wrath of the gods!!!!
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jnb5101
be careful! even whispering the purged name of the unperson "lars" will bring down the wrath of the gods!!!!
Truth be told, the person in question left of his own volition. Got tired of some of the stuff that goes on.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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That is sad for us... A can't think of one issue I have researched on here where his name/solution didn't come up and help solve the problem...

Have you considered using HOK Shimrin Base coats that simulate a Candy job? I know it obviously can't be the same gloss and depth, but I does still look really nice! Since I'm a novice that is what I plan to go with if I end up DIY for the color part...

P.S. There is also a Paint/body section under general corvette part of the forum and an extreamly knowledgable guy "DUB" who floats around there all the time. Right now I'm following a post he is helping around "Garage Paint Job"

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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tgcattle
I am by no means a paint expert. I have painted only about 10 cars/trucks. I have used ppg, dupont and summit racing paints. And yes the HOK involves a lot of steps. I did however buy all primer, sealer, basecoat,kandy,klear coat....etc. So if ii get all my prep as perfect as i can...hopefully it will come out good. I have a good dry sorce of air with plenty of volume and dry. I have a hvlp primer gun and a finish gun.
Outstanding! You have more than enough knowledge and experience for the HOK, just read all of the tech sheets, it does flow a little different than the others, and flash time is a tad different, but if done properly like I said, it leaves an awesome finish! Have fun! Don't forget pics when you are done!
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Might find a few nuggets here...

http://www.autobody101.com/content/
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yeah I'm going with the basecoat Kandy. It's supposed to mimick real candy only eaisier. I'm gunna shoot it over HOK Metallic silver base. Lars Left????????????????
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Yup the flash time tells you to touch the paint to see if it strings or just feels tacky.. Not to sure bout the touching part.....guess you posed to touch on the bottom or sumthin
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or spray a small peice of scrap as a test peice
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