Solid hub clutch opinions
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Solid hub clutch opinions
Anyone running one? I have one, (not installed yet). I'm going to be running a 383 with 451HP and 466TQ at the F/W, TKO 600, and a hydraulic clutch. I want to autocross and maybe road race some, but the car will probably be 90% plus street. I'm just looking for some experienced opinions.
Thanks
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Since you have one you might as well use it. Is this one of the Ram higher HP clutch assembles?
IMO - clutch companies have it pretty much figured out with the clutch disk dampening springs. Even my 800 or something HP Centerforce 11 inch has them. They just use more HDuty springs. It is also my opinion that they serve a function. They do cushion drive line shock a little.
I did manage to rip all 5 springs out of a stock GM clutch disk once. But that is just being stupid and dumping the clutch at high rpm with big rear tires.
I don't like hydro assist clutches. Modern quality high powered clutches are easy on the leg anyway. It's not like the bears of yesteryear.
IMO - clutch companies have it pretty much figured out with the clutch disk dampening springs. Even my 800 or something HP Centerforce 11 inch has them. They just use more HDuty springs. It is also my opinion that they serve a function. They do cushion drive line shock a little.
I did manage to rip all 5 springs out of a stock GM clutch disk once. But that is just being stupid and dumping the clutch at high rpm with big rear tires.
I don't like hydro assist clutches. Modern quality high powered clutches are easy on the leg anyway. It's not like the bears of yesteryear.
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Thanks gkull, I'm going to see if speedway will swap it out for a spring version for me. I think since most of my driving will be on the street I'll be more comfortable with the spring setup. But the solid hub might keep the ol' lady from getting behind the wheel... 
If anyone else has an opinion please speak up.
If anyone else has an opinion please speak up.
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I don't think that a human could tell if it was solid or had the springs. Your U-joints, half shafts, and out spindles might be happier though. It just dampens drive line shock.
Driveability is a combination of flywheel weight, final first gear ratio, and motor TQ.
When you get this all together if you have wheel hop. Buy or build your own aluminum diff. crossmember mount reinforcers.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...-bushings.html
Driveability is a combination of flywheel weight, final first gear ratio, and motor TQ.
When you get this all together if you have wheel hop. Buy or build your own aluminum diff. crossmember mount reinforcers.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...-bushings.html
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Come to find out the lightweight flywheel I picked up with the clutch won't clear a sprung hub, so unless I want to replace the F/W too... No removable crossmember so changing out later will be a bit of a hassle with the TKO. hmmmmm
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What kind of light weight flywheel are you running. Why won't the spring hub one fit. The raised part of the hub goes to the pressure plate side. The other side of the clutch disc should be quite flat.
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20 pounds, Speedway Motors S/B CHEVY, 153 TOOTH - 1 PIECE MAIN, 20 LBS Item #6051530
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Lightw...Chevy,898.html
The writeup reads (as I see now) "Note: Not for use with stock clutch disc as springs on friction disc hub will not clear flywheel bolts."
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Lightw...Chevy,898.html
The writeup reads (as I see now) "Note: Not for use with stock clutch disc as springs on friction disc hub will not clear flywheel bolts."
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I don't know what brand the Speedway flywheel is, but I've got a Hays 10lb billet steel flywheel. When I bought it, it said the same thing about a stock disc hitting the flywheel bolts. They said that I would have to use their flywheel bolt kit. I think the heads are shorter. I bought them and no problems. You might purchase them when you pick up a disc when you check clearance. They are: Hays flywheel bolt kit 530. Kinda pricey, but well worth it if you wanna use a light weight flywheel.
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gkull,
I made a mistake, it's not a Hays Flywheel, it's a Ram. when I bought it two years ago it was listed as a 10 pounder. I see now it's listed as 9.2 lbs. They also make a 12.1 pound which I used before the 10. I could actually tell the difference between the two. As far as a billet steel flywheel, it's a good price.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-1512-10/
I made a mistake, it's not a Hays Flywheel, it's a Ram. when I bought it two years ago it was listed as a 10 pounder. I see now it's listed as 9.2 lbs. They also make a 12.1 pound which I used before the 10. I could actually tell the difference between the two. As far as a billet steel flywheel, it's a good price.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-1512-10/
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Yeah the 12 lb. was for internal balance, when I put the forged rotating asm. I had it external balanced and went to the 10 lb. 'cause it only comes external bal.
I'm not sure if they make a 168 wheel that light. I'll see if I can find one.
I'm not sure if they make a 168 wheel that light. I'll see if I can find one.
