Pro6Ten A/C compressor
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '09-'11
Pro6Ten A/C compressor
Has anyone installed one of these in your C3?
The stock A6 compressor running R-134A is a HP hog and really loads my engine down at idle. I am hoping this will be a better option.
I have also read that our old A/C systems will run better with R-134A if the condenser is upgrade to a newer crossflow style. Which one should I look at?
Also, are there any 73 owners who have installed a VIR eliminator?
I assume this kit just locates the POA valve outside the receiver (accumulator). If so, will the POA valve need to be adjusted for use with R-134A or should it be adjusted out of the box?
Thanks
The stock A6 compressor running R-134A is a HP hog and really loads my engine down at idle. I am hoping this will be a better option.
I have also read that our old A/C systems will run better with R-134A if the condenser is upgrade to a newer crossflow style. Which one should I look at?
Also, are there any 73 owners who have installed a VIR eliminator?
I assume this kit just locates the POA valve outside the receiver (accumulator). If so, will the POA valve need to be adjusted for use with R-134A or should it be adjusted out of the box?
Thanks
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
If you are not too concerned about the stock look, definitely go with the pro6ten compressor, it will be lighter on the engine and will save you some engine bay space, I personally converted to a Sanden 508 but I think both will do the job as required.
You really have to have a parallel flow condenser when you use the R134a, as the conventional condenser will tend to rise the pressure of the refrigerant and will force you not fill the system to %100, which will affect the system's efficiency.
What I did to upgrade my stock A/C was to have a Sanden comp. with brackets and a parallel flow condenser and a POA valve eliminator, now my A/C is literally freezing me to death on long journeys.
You really have to have a parallel flow condenser when you use the R134a, as the conventional condenser will tend to rise the pressure of the refrigerant and will force you not fill the system to %100, which will affect the system's efficiency.
What I did to upgrade my stock A/C was to have a Sanden comp. with brackets and a parallel flow condenser and a POA valve eliminator, now my A/C is literally freezing me to death on long journeys.
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If you are not too concerned about the stock look, definitely go with the pro6ten compressor, it will be lighter on the engine and will save you some engine bay space, I personally converted to a Sanden 508 but I think both will do the job as required.
You really have to have a parallel flow condenser when you use the R134a, as the conventional condenser will tend to rise the pressure of the refrigerant and will force you not fill the system to %100, which will affect the system's efficiency.
What I did to upgrade my stock A/C was to have a Sanden comp. with brackets and a parallel flow condenser and a POA valve eliminator, now my A/C is literally freezing me to death on long journeys.
You really have to have a parallel flow condenser when you use the R134a, as the conventional condenser will tend to rise the pressure of the refrigerant and will force you not fill the system to %100, which will affect the system's efficiency.
What I did to upgrade my stock A/C was to have a Sanden comp. with brackets and a parallel flow condenser and a POA valve eliminator, now my A/C is literally freezing me to death on long journeys.
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
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Burning Brakes
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If you don't mind me jumping in, I just got the same kit yesterday shipped through FedEx. The Vintage Air condenser kit with drier is stock # 021073 (205.00) An A/C mechanic I know advised me to add an electric fan set up in front of the condenser. This will also bring vent temps down. The fan kit # 302686-cca
(179.00) and the last item VA suggested was a male trinary switch (35.50).
This switch allows the fan to cycle on and off.
Good luck with your project.
Bill
(179.00) and the last item VA suggested was a male trinary switch (35.50).
This switch allows the fan to cycle on and off.
Good luck with your project.
Bill
Burning Brakes
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From: Winston Salem NC
If you don't mind me jumping in, I just got the same kit yesterday shipped through FedEx. The Vintage Air condenser kit with drier is stock # 021073 (205.00) An A/C mechanic I know advised me to add an electric fan set up in front of the condenser. This will also bring vent temps down. The fan kit # 302686-cca
(179.00) and the last item VA suggested was a male trinary switch (35.50).
This switch allows the fan to cycle on and off.
Good luck with your project.
Bill
(179.00) and the last item VA suggested was a male trinary switch (35.50).
This switch allows the fan to cycle on and off.
Good luck with your project.
Bill
Burning Brakes
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From: pensacola fl
the instructions are specific for a 68-76 vette and it shows the fan mountef to the front of the condenser with no modifications. There is a page showing an optional hood prop modification for 68-71 years. if you want to pm a fax number, I will fax pictures and instructions.
Bill
Bill
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Burning Brakes
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From: Rotonda FL
I have a 16x25" parallel flow condenser from NOSTALGIC AIR PARTS - $99.
http://www.nostalgicairparts.com
I have a 77 and I used the two bars that mounted the original condenser and used some 'Z' channel to connect the built-in brackets on the parallel flow to the original mounts.
I also used a trinary switch connected to my DCC fan controller to get full flow from my Mark VIII fan. This fan draws enough that you don't need any booster fans.
http://www.nostalgicairparts.com
I have a 77 and I used the two bars that mounted the original condenser and used some 'Z' channel to connect the built-in brackets on the parallel flow to the original mounts.
I also used a trinary switch connected to my DCC fan controller to get full flow from my Mark VIII fan. This fan draws enough that you don't need any booster fans.
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I decided when I rebuilt it that I was going to use R-134A because it is about 1/4 the cost, and I can buy it legally and charge it myself.
I just want to have a A/C system that cools well in 100 degree+ Texas summers, doesn't bog the engine too much for stop and go driving, is reliable, and serviceable by myself. The original R-12 system was marginal at best, but I think with modern components I can get what I want.
All that being said. My new Pro6ten compressor, VIR eliminator, and cross flow condenser arrived yesterday from Old Air Products. I will start working on installing them next week and I will try to take pics and post a thread with the progress.
Drifting
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From: Somers CT
No kidding! Then it must be illegal to repair an existing system??
It's illegal here to make a new system or to generate new R12 but the recovered stuff can still be used. In fact it seems to be more available now then before because of the low demand.
You guys are tough up there!!
It's illegal here to make a new system or to generate new R12 but the recovered stuff can still be used. In fact it seems to be more available now then before because of the low demand.
You guys are tough up there!!
Drifting
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From: Somers CT
I know how you feel mine did the same thing shortly after I got the car and recharged the system. I didn't have the smarts to replace the hoses so mine blew out because of an old one. I replaced it and recharged the system and it's been fine for many years. Good luck with your retrofit
