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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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So I decided to go with an OEM-Temp Fail-Safe 195* Thermostat. Problem is it's making the car run at 210-220. A little warm for my comfort.

Now, if I take out the thermostat it won't go above 150-160.

I tried using a 160* Thermostat, but the Mr Gasket ones still don't get the car warmer than about 170, still too cold.

I just need a thermostat that will do it's job and keep the car running at the 200 degree mark, anyone have reccomendations for brands that work right?
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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why do you want it to run that hot? 160 is fine
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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why do you want it to run that hot? 160 is fine
Not really looking to open that can of worms. I paid a lot for this new engine and it was designed to run at 200 so that's what I'm shooting for.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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This cheapy has always worked well for me,right at 200.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...1698416709____

edit - I do drill a hole in it.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Get a Robert Shaw Hi Flow stat. Marketed by Mr. Gasket. Available in 160, 180, and 195 temps.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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180* sounds like what you're looking for. I think that's a good number to shoot for. Warm enough to help burn off a lot of the contaminants that enter the crankcase.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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180* sounds like what you're looking for. I think that's a good number to shoot for. Warm enough to help burn off a lot of the contaminants that enter the crankcase.


I had a stewart warner high flow 195 thermostat installed and it ran warm (205 etc). I put either a 180 or a 185 degree thermostat in and it was a different car, it always runs cool now.

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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Didn't your "high dollar" engine builder provide you a 'stat that will allow the engine to run at "design" temp? Or at least provide a toll free tech line to recommend a suitable part? I assume they have a recommended vendor/part number since there's a specific temp range spec for their engine.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Are you trusting an OEM dash gauge or using an infrared temp sensor to check temps at the engine?
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I picked up 4 different Thermostats to try out.

Perfect match was a Stant 180 with a 1/8th drilled hole. Needle is rock steady at 200!
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
This cheapy has always worked well for me,right at 200.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...1698416709____

edit - I do drill a hole in it.
Why and where do you drill? Never heard of that.
Thanks, Mick
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 03:28 AM
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Why and where do you drill? Never heard of that.
Thanks, Mick
Literally just drill a hole in the plate.

Makes life easier when trying to get the air out of the system.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by markids77
Didn't your "high dollar" engine builder provide you a 'stat that will allow the engine to run at "design" temp? Or at least provide a toll free tech line to recommend a suitable part? I assume they have a recommended vendor/part number since there's a specific temp range spec for their engine.
There's nothing "high dollar" about it. Given that GM spends millions of dollars in R&D and decided that this car should be equipped to operate in a temperature range of 195-210, I will trust that they knew what they were doing.

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Originally Posted by SteveG75
Get a Robert Shaw Hi Flow stat. Marketed by Mr. Gasket. Available in 160, 180, and 195 temps.
I agree, Robert Shaw makes awesome thermostats. Summit Racing is where I got mine.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by volition
Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I picked up 4 different Thermostats to try out.

Perfect match was a Stant 180 with a 1/8th drilled hole. Needle is rock steady at 200!
Stant was the original supplier to GM. I do not know who owns them these days but they used to make very good t-stats.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by volition
Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I picked up 4 different Thermostats to try out.

Perfect match was a Stant 180 with a 1/8th drilled hole. Needle is rock steady at 200!
Glad you found one that worked. Just curious did you also try the stant 195,in theory it should do the job also ?
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
Glad you found one that worked. Just curious did you also try the stant 195,in theory it should do the job also ?
Yeah I did try the 195 as well, it was a little lower but the engine still ran at 213 as indicated by Infared thermometer.

With the 180, it's running at 196 on thermometer.

213 wouldn't be so bad except it's indicated as about 225 on the dash gauge.. kind of unnerving while driving the thing, ya know? The 196 it runs at now shows at 200-205 which is much more comftrable to look at.

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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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Go with the Robert Shaw - IIRC, it is designed such that if it "sticks" it will stick open, not shut.

Also, IIRC, there's an old thread here that contains a paper written by someone at GM in which they recommend use of a 180 degree thermostat.

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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VCuomo
Go with the Robert Shaw - IIRC, it is designed such that if it "sticks" it will stick open, not shut.
Hows that work ?
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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Auto zone has a Fail Safe brand of theromstat, that if it does fail it, it will stay open vs closed. My Mr Gasket thermostat lasted about 500 miles when it failed and stayed closed which is not good.
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