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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Ok. Was working on my vapor lock problem with some wrapping of the fuel lines and took the car for a test drive to only now have a new problem. Engine is a 68 327 with an Edelbrock carb.

She started right up per usual. I took her about 3 miles and decided to turn around. When I got to the stop sign she stalled. Got her running again, but it took longer than usual but she stalled out again. Got out and increased the idle and started her again. There was some hesitation when I started out from the light but she ran ok, but whenever I hit the gas to accelerate she hesitated and then went.

Got her home she stalled again. Got it started but took three turns of the key and she ran rough then stalled again. Pulled the air cleaner and notice gas dripping on one side for about a minute after she shut down. Now she's acting like she's flooded....now will not start.

What is going on?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Stuck float? Dirt in needle and seat?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Stuck float? Dirt in needle and seat?
Trying to check the needle and seat. Just took the top of the carb off and the float don't sound like they have fluid in them so they are not sunk.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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A common misconception is too much fuel is vapour lock. Vapour lock is correctly defined as fuel NOT getting to the carb because fuel in the line before the pump is too hot and generating fuel vapour, which the pump cannot draw in. Pump can only pump liquid because of design.
Too much fuel is percolation - fuel after the pump is too hot and vaporizes which causes an overly rich condition - solution to that is insulating the line after the pump or a thermal spacer between the carb and intake manifold (depending on the actual cause). This usually happens after a hot shutdown and some time. Car may start if accel pedal is held to the floor while cranking, clearing the over-rich condition. I had a car years ago that was a bi*ch to start 10 minutes after a hot shudown. Installed a factory recommended thermal insuluator betweeen aluminum carb and aluminum intake and voila!, never had problem again.
Reference: Peterson's carb and fuel systems #6, c: 1977.

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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich's'78
A common misconception is too much fuel is vapour lock. Vapour lock is correctly defined as fuel NOT getting to the carb because fuel in the line before the pump is too hot and generating fuel vapour, which the pump cannot draw in. Pump can only pump liquid because of design.
Too much fuel is percolation - fuel after the pump is too hot and vaporizes which causes an overly rich condition
Correct in all details, including spelling of vapour
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cruisin68
Ok. Was working on my vapor lock problem with some wrapping of the fuel lines and took the car for a test drive to only now have a new problem. Engine is a 68 327 with an Edelbrock carb.

She started right up per usual. I took her about 3 miles and decided to turn around. When I got to the stop sign she stalled. Got her running again, but it took longer than usual but she stalled out again. Got out and increased the idle and started her again. There was some hesitation when I started out from the light but she ran ok, but whenever I hit the gas to accelerate she hesitated and then went.

Got her home she stalled again. Got it started but took three turns of the key and she ran rough then stalled again. Pulled the air cleaner and notice gas dripping on one side for about a minute after she shut down. Now she's acting like she's flooded....now will not start.

What is going on?
If your 68 has the "carb heat crossover" failure to use the correct gaskets or upside down will cause both perc and a/f problems. The exhaust gas will be ingested all the time.
Couple ways to fix it, with proper gaskets and heatshield, or block off the channel.

If a regular manifold, then just check you needle and seat for proper operation and possible vacuum leaks.





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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Correct in all details, including spelling of vapour
Ahhhh, the King's English...........but he mis-spelled aluminium, didn't he?

Scott
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