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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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I am dropping system voltage on short runs and the engine is dying when I let the RPMs come down. The battery also goes dead but charges back up on a charger when I get it home. I thought it was a slipping alternator belt. I tightened it up and tried again with the same results. I checked and my alternator is putting out 14.5 Volts at high idle so I replaced the battery. Same thing. I am going to replace the alternator but was wondering if it could be anything else?
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I am dropping system voltage on short runs and the engine is dying when I let the RPMs come down. The battery also goes dead but charges back up on a charger when I get it home. I thought it was a slipping alternator belt. I tightened it up and tried again with the same results. I checked and my alternator is putting out 14.5 Volts at high idle so I replaced the battery. Same thing. I am going to replace the alternator but was wondering if it could be anything else?
I changed the alternator and same thing. I could really use some advice because I have never had this kind of porblem before.
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What year , what voltage do you have at the battery ?
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What year , what voltage do you have at the battery ?
1977. The battery is brand new. I have to check my voltage again tonight with a digiatl meter from work. Do you know if I have an external voltage regulator? If so I would thing that is next to change.
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What year , what voltage do you have at the battery ?
Engine off 13.5. Engine running 14.2 at battery posts. 14.5 at alternator hot output. Lights on engine dropped RPMs and picked up load. Voltage at alternator 14.4.
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Engine off 13.5. Engine running 14.2 at battery posts. 14.5 at alternator hot output. Lights on engine dropped RPMs and picked up load. Voltage at alternator 14.4.
That looks good to me. New battery,new alternator,what is your dash voltmeter doing during these short runs ? Does it ever dip below 13.5 ?

It sounds as if your saying above you think the reason the car dies is because the battery voltage has dropped and the ignition system is being starved , correct ?
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That looks good to me. New battery,new alternator,what is your dash voltmeter doing during these short runs ? Does it ever dip below 13.5 ?

It sounds as if your saying above you think the reason the car dies is because the battery voltage has dropped and the ignition system is being starved , correct ?
Dash volt meter drops a I cruise alnong and when I get off the fuel to shift the engine starts to die. If it does the starter is always sounding weak. After charging the battery full I did a test in my garage with the motor running. I started out charging at 14.5 volts and just let it idle with the blower on full and the head lights on. After a bit I killed the blower and head lights and ran it around the block. I let it keep running and it dropped dwon to 13.8 volts at the alternator even when I brought the RPMs up. I am taking it to my mechanic tomorrow. This is beyond me although if he tells me my new "remanufactured" alternator is bad I am going to blow a fit. The crazy thing is I have a very motivated buyer for it but would never sell a car that was not sound.
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Does the generator or battery light come on when the key is in the On position ? Does the generator or battery light come on while your driving ?
How does the neg battery cable look where it bolts to the frame ?
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Sounds like a bad alternator or regulator, which is inside the alternator. Take it back, get another one.
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I think you may have some bad connections on some of the power wiring. If the connections (or the wire, itself) is weak/bad, the battery can't get recharged, no matter how good the battery and/or alternator is. The fact that you are constantly seeing over 14 volts from the alternator indicates that the alt is sensing that the battery is discharged. So, I think you have a wiring problem in the main power circuits and/or the sensing loop to the alternator.
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DO Not assume "NEW" .... means working correctly.
Battery or Alternator.
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DO Not assume "NEW" .... means working correctly.
Battery or Alternator.

I had a customer come in with a new battery from a Shell gas station,customer said it kept going dead,I tested and determined the new battery was bad, 4 new Shell battery's later I put in one of mine and he was back on the road. The Shell station was selling stale ,poorly stored battery's.
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