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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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When I check timing with elec adv unplugged it bounces all over the place. What would cause this?
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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I can think of 2 possibilities - Mech springs to light (moving @ idle) or worn harmonic damper (elastomer).
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Most likely a sticky [mechanical] advance mechanism in the distributor. It could be the harmonic balancer, but usually, when the rubber joint breaks down, the line just 'wanders' around. If you have an electronic ignition, it could also be a bad electronic module.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Most likely a sticky [mechanical] advance mechanism in the distributor. It could be the harmonic balancer, but usually, when the rubber joint breaks down, the line just 'wanders' around. If you have an electronic ignition, it could also be a bad electronic module.
I don't think an 81 has any mechanical advance stuff. I looked and there were no springs at all.
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Slop in the distributor shaft could cause it.
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Slop in the distributor shaft could cause it.
how do you check for it???
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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Any mechanical issues are there whether your connector is plugged in or not.
If it only acts that way when the computer connector is unplugged, then I would probably look toward the ignition module.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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I don't think an 81 has any mechanical advance stuff. I looked and there were no springs at all.
You removed the distributor rotor and saw no springs? Did you see weights?
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This is how it's fixed. You should be able to find something on the web on checking it with a feeler gauge.

http://www.jegs.com/p/Moroso/Moroso-...48771/10002/-1
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I believe "toddalin" has a good point. I have a 71 points distributor converted to a pertonics(spl) electronic ignition. Had the same timing bounce. I remove the distributor and checked the shaft to gear for end play. Measured 60 thousands way out of spec... Bought the shim kit and got the gap to within 10 thousands..No more bounce.. my 2 cents.
Mike
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Originally Posted by toddalin
Slop in the distributor shaft could cause it.
Originally Posted by 81$$pit
how do you check for it???
The timing on my '80 was all over the place too. If there is vertical slop in your distributor, bouncing up and down advances and retards your timing because of the diagonal cut distributor gear teeth.

To check for vertical slop, just grab the rotor or shaft and pull up a few times. If you are able to move it more than 1/16", then you have too much vertical play. You fix the problem by adding gear shims. Vendors (such as Moroso) sell HEI shim kits. Be sure to get the gear shim kit, not the shaft shim kit.

That worked wonders for my car.
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