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Melting Slicks
I use a large drain pan for that, it's actually a plastic mortar tub from the Home Depot. Messy job otherwise.
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Melting Slicks
I use a large tub under the pan this is the order I do things to try to control the mess. Back out the back bolts not removing them all the way. Remove the linkage bracket bolts next then all the others. This will allow you to pour some of the fluid out the front of the pan before removing the back bolts all the way and dropping the pan.
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Burning Brakes
After you remove the pan, fluid and replace the filter, throw the pan away and purchase a pan with a drain! Or, buy a drain plug and install it on your old pan. Next time it will be a breeze - and there will be a next time.
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NAPA sells the plugs for the pan for $ 4.99. Just drill a hole and install it. Just make sure you don't install it under one of the tranny pan bolts.(don't ask me how I know this).
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Changing transmission oil and filter Reply to Thread
I have one of these pumps:
http://compare.ebay.com/like/2708072...Types&var=sbar
and its worth every cent when it comes to changing trans fluid. Its able to suck a large portion of the fliuid out and all that remains is mabe a cup full in the trans pan.
I have used it 3 times on my 78's TH350 and dropping the pan is mess free. I highly recommend it.
Dan
http://compare.ebay.com/like/2708072...Types&var=sbar
and its worth every cent when it comes to changing trans fluid. Its able to suck a large portion of the fliuid out and all that remains is mabe a cup full in the trans pan.
I have used it 3 times on my 78's TH350 and dropping the pan is mess free. I highly recommend it.
Dan
#8
Melting Slicks
What about the filter, usually it needs changed or else it could plug up or restrict flow of fluid, IMHO> You change the filter when changing oil don't you?
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Le Mans Master
Sounds like the others have already got you covered, as I pull the side bolts, front, then rear while draining. The drain plug kit sounds like a good idea. As mentioned, you can buy a drain plug pan that's even better. Reason GM doesn't originally do this, is you'll sometimes get a guy changing his motor oil with his shiney new wrench set, draining the tranny and adding 5 more quarts of oil to an already full engine crankcase. Doesn't sound so good to me.
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Safety Car
I don't know the capacity of a auto. trans. but isn't there still a good bit of dirty fluid left in the torque converter when using the above mentioned techniques???
I can't remember the make of cars that had them but some I worked on, when I was turning a wrench in the '70's' had a small square head plug in the converter to drain it also.
Don't remember if G.M. used the plug or not.
Anyone else remember what I'm referring to?
I can't remember the make of cars that had them but some I worked on, when I was turning a wrench in the '70's' had a small square head plug in the converter to drain it also.
Don't remember if G.M. used the plug or not.
Anyone else remember what I'm referring to?
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I don't know the capacity of a auto. trans. but isn't there still a good bit of dirty fluid left in the torque converter when using the above mentioned techniques???
I can't remember the make of cars that had them but some I worked on, when I was turning a wrench in the '70's' had a small square head plug in the converter to drain it also.
Don't remember if G.M. used the plug or not.
Anyone else remember what I'm referring to?
I can't remember the make of cars that had them but some I worked on, when I was turning a wrench in the '70's' had a small square head plug in the converter to drain it also.
Don't remember if G.M. used the plug or not.
Anyone else remember what I'm referring to?
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Le Mans Master
Yea, it's Ford on the square torque converter drain plugs, as had a few. Why other manufacturers don't include them, is beyond me. When having a TH350 tranny rebuilt, had them weld one onto the converter I really liked, as was sending it out for a new input hub and balance anyway.
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I don't know the capacity of a auto. trans. but isn't there still a good bit of dirty fluid left in the torque converter when using the above mentioned techniques???
I can't remember the make of cars that had them but some I worked on, when I was turning a wrench in the '70's' had a small square head plug in the converter to drain it also.
Don't remember if G.M. used the plug or not.
Anyone else remember what I'm referring to?
I can't remember the make of cars that had them but some I worked on, when I was turning a wrench in the '70's' had a small square head plug in the converter to drain it also.
Don't remember if G.M. used the plug or not.
Anyone else remember what I'm referring to?
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Sounds like the others have already got you covered, as I pull the side bolts, front, then rear while draining. The drain plug kit sounds like a good idea. As mentioned, you can buy a drain plug pan that's even better. Reason GM doesn't originally do this, is you'll sometimes get a guy changing his motor oil with his shiney new wrench set, draining the tranny and adding 5 more quarts of oil to an already full engine crankcase. Doesn't sound so good to me.
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Have you used any vendor for the pan with a drain plug? Can you provide any links?
Thanks
#17
Team Owner
Wear goggles and a rain coat when you drop the pan. Ah, for the want of a drain plug.
If you really want to limit the mess, buy a cheap, bulb-type syphon and suck out a lot of the tranny fluid from the fill tube...before you drop the pan. And, anyway you do it, add a drain plug when you go back together with it.
If you really want to limit the mess, buy a cheap, bulb-type syphon and suck out a lot of the tranny fluid from the fill tube...before you drop the pan. And, anyway you do it, add a drain plug when you go back together with it.
#18
Safety Car
I attended a tech session on C3 maintainence conducted by Chris Petris and his suggestion was to take it to one of those tranny shops that have the tranny machine that cycles fluid until it has replaced all of the fluid. Otherwise, you are only changing 1/3 of its capacity (the 8 pints).
#19
Team Owner
Yes, most of the tranny oil is not drained during oil/filter change. However, if the oil is not burnt (smell it) and there is no debris in the pan, there is really nothing wrong with keeping that remaining oil. The existing filter has been capturing any particulate that might be damaging to the tranny; the remaining stuff is just very fine '****' that does no harm and is mostly cetrifuged to the outside of the torque converter pump & turbine.
If the oil is in such bad condition that it should be flushed out, by all means, have it done. Otherwise, it is still servicible and you will just be wasting time and money to completely flush it.
If the oil is in such bad condition that it should be flushed out, by all means, have it done. Otherwise, it is still servicible and you will just be wasting time and money to completely flush it.
#20
Similar procedure is recommended for new auto cars. Drain and fill 3 times. Do it the first time, then go for a drive, drain again and fill again the 2nd time, go for a drive, drain and fill for the 3rd time.