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Old 10-11-2011, 08:00 AM
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Hi to all, I've a stock 350ci and I "should" have a QJet on it (the motor itself is a Crate motor from '94), how can I check which type of carburetor I've installed? Thank you for your help!
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post a pic of it
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This link has a picture of a Quadrajet
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...-question.html

This link has a picture of a type of Holley
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...-question.html

This link has a picture of an Edelbrock

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-1406/

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Old 10-13-2011, 06:15 AM
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Looking at the pictures I realized I've a Quadrajet!
So, as I've problems from 1500 to 2500 RPM, I was planning to replace it with a new one.
I was thinking about an Edelbrock with electric choke. My question is: is it better a 500 CFM or a 600 CFM for my stock motor? I've calculated the CFM of my motor and 500 should be enough BUT somebody says 600 is better....
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Originally Posted by Iron_dog
Looking at the pictures I realized I've a Quadrajet!
So, as I've problems from 1500 to 2500 RPM, I was planning to replace it with a new one.
I was thinking about an Edelbrock with electric choke. My question is: is it better a 500 CFM or a 600 CFM for my stock motor? I've calculated the CFM of my motor and 500 should be enough BUT somebody says 600 is better....
Going in the wrong direction with an Edelbrock, just have somebody rebuild your quad if you wont run a Holley.
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What type of problems? Trying to fix something by just swapping parts is generally expensive and solves nothing.

95% of "carb" problems are really ignition problems.

I expect that a little recurving of the mechanical advance and setting it at 32-34 degrees mechanical all in by 2500 rpm will solve your problem. Most small blocks like 36 degrees of advance but the fast burn heads like a little less.
Old 10-13-2011, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by iron_dog
... My question is: Is it better a 500 cfm or a 600 cfm for my stock motor? I've calculated the cfm of my motor and 500 should be enough but somebody says 600 is better....
600
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If he doesn't know a Holley from a qjet on sight he won't want learn to tune a holley. I'd get that qjet rebuilt by a pro to stock specs. True. The ignition system should be rehabbed at the same time.
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Originally Posted by SteveG75
What type of problems? Trying to fix something by just swapping parts is generally expensive and solves nothing.

95% of "carb" problems are really ignition problems.

I expect that a little recurving of the mechanical advance and setting it at 32-34 degrees mechanical all in by 2500 rpm will solve your problem. Most small blocks like 36 degrees of advance but the fast burn heads like a little less.
I'm really at the starting point of the learning curve so I need to understand what to do... the problems I've seen is that during that range the car is not smooth and the mechanic from which I bought the car said it's a carb problem and replacing it will solve...
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Originally Posted by boltnut
If he doesn't know a Holley from a qjet on sight he won't want learn to tune a holley. I'd get that qjet rebuilt by a pro to stock specs. True. The ignition system should be rehabbed at the same time.
This is not true, I don't know but it doesn't means I don't want to learn... I want to learn because I like to play with these things.
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The Q-J is a spread bore carb & Holley has a replacement carb that fits.
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Originally Posted by Iron_dog
I'm really at the starting point of the learning curve so I need to understand what to do... the problems I've seen is that during that range the car is not smooth and the mechanic from which I bought the car said it's a carb problem and replacing it will solve...
This is shotgun maintenance. No diagnosis, just replacing parts.

What does "not smooth" mean? Is it jerky? Lazy on throttle tip-in? Rough?

BTW, unless the carb has been mangled by a previous owner or mechanic, a rebuild kit is a lot cheaper than a new carb. Of course, that cost a lot less and requires some skills. Also, don't believe the advertising hype, just beacuse they call it a Performer carb, does not mean that it is a high performance part.
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Originally Posted by SteveG75
This is shotgun maintenance. No diagnosis, just replacing parts.

What does "not smooth" mean? Is it jerky? Lazy on throttle tip-in? Rough?

BTW, unless the carb has been mangled by a previous owner or mechanic, a rebuild kit is a lot cheaper than a new carb. Of course, that cost a lot less and requires some skills. Also, don't believe the advertising hype, just beacuse they call it a Performer carb, does not mean that it is a high performance part.
Jerky, absolutely! I'd love to take off the QJ and fix it, it would be great also because I could learn more on my car! But I don't know how much "difficult" it's and Edelbrock ones have electric choke which can help me in cold times...

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Originally Posted by Iron_dog
Jerky, absolutely! I'd love to take off the QJ and fix it, it would be great also because I could learn more on my car! But I don't know how much "difficult" it's and Edelbrock ones have electric choke which can help me in cold times...
Electric chokes don't work any better than the stock OEM mechanical chokes. Fix yours while you're fixing the other issues.
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Where are you located, there are members here that would help you out or direct you to a local who can.
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Originally Posted by '75
Where are you located, there are members here that would help you out or direct you to a local who can.
Italy!
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Get a non-plastic bucket and parts brush, an air compressor (if you are U.S. military, the base auto shop should have one) a gallon of laquer thinner and goggles. Order a carb kit, nitrophyl float and fuel filter. E-mail Lars Grimsrud for his q-jet choke set up proceedure.

Take the carb off the car and disassemble it, seating all adjustments first, counting and recording turns (do NOT take off the butterflies). Soak everything in the bucket full of laquer thinner for a day (cover the bucket and keep it in a well ventilated, non-inhabited area). Use the brush to remove any visible residue. Put on the goggles and blow compressed air through all passages untill completely clean.

Re-assemble substituting the new parts in the kit for the old, putting all adjustments back where they were originally and adjusting the choke per Lars' instructions.

Bolt it back on and you should be good to go 95% of the time. If not, it may be an ignition problem after all, or adjustments may have been "Bubba'd". We can get you through that either way.

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Old 10-18-2011, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by a1sensei
Get a non-plastic bucket and parts brush, an air compressor (if you are U.S. military, the base auto shop should have one) a gallon of laquer thinner and goggles. Order a carb kit, nitrophyl float and fuel filter. E-mail Lars Grimsrud for his q-jet choke set up proceedure.

Take the carb off the car and disassemble it, seating all adjustments first, counting and recording turns (do NOT take off the butterflies). Soak everything in the bucket full of laquer thinner for a day (cover the bucket and keep it in a well ventilated, non-inhabited area). Use the brush to remove any visible residue. Put on the goggles and blow compressed air through all passages untill completely clean.

Re-assemble substituting the new parts in the kit for the old, putting all adjustments back where they were originally and adjusting the choke per Lars' instructions.

Bolt it back on and you should be good to go 95% of the time. If not, it may be an ignition problem after all, or adjustments may have been "Bubba'd". We can get you through that either way.

God bless, Sensei
Cool!! I think I'll have a lot of fun doing these things! Thank you!
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I bet you can also download the manual. It has exploded views, and should explain how it works.

I found this to be extremely helpful on mine.

When done, you will have learned much, and feel good about it.
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The April 2010 edition of 'Corvette Fever' had a tech article called 'Servicing the Rochester Quadrajet Carburetor'. It has lots of pictures. I can scan it, and email it to you if you want.

Also, another thing I found useful the first time I rebuilt my quadrajet, I bought an old quadrajet of the same style to use as a reference. That was a good thing too. When I went to put my carb back together, I couldn't see how the fast idle, and choke linkage went back together. Having a second carb as a reference helped figure that out. Then you can rebuild the old one, and have a spare carb.

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