Broken Motor Mounts
Drifting
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From: Plano TX
I've had numerous types of non solid motor mounts break over the years. Always made sure I put the cross bolt from the side that allows me to remove it easily.
I now run nothing but solid mounts. While they add a bit of vibration and noise it's not bad at all so one of the cheapest performance improvements. It tighten up the chassis so another big plus.
I now run nothing but solid mounts. While they add a bit of vibration and noise it's not bad at all so one of the cheapest performance improvements. It tighten up the chassis so another big plus.
Melting Slicks
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So,....is it out yet? I just love to see the engine hanging on the picker!
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '12
62500 thickness = .25"
62530 thickness = .188"
I think it looks like I have 62500's
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St. Jude Donor '12
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gkull: I would like to verify that you actually broke the energy suspension motor mounts. I called them before I installed a new motor and they claimed that they had a "patented interlocking mechanism" that would prevent the motor from over rotating so I went ahead with that assurance. Now ... I am not so sure that was good enough.
I had previously broken the stock mounts and the only clue was a little nick in the upper radiator hose. Now how did that get there I wondered? Holy Sh.., that's pretty scary, once I figured out the fan was hitting the hose.
Right now the body is off and it is relatively easy to do the right thing
I had previously broken the stock mounts and the only clue was a little nick in the upper radiator hose. Now how did that get there I wondered? Holy Sh.., that's pretty scary, once I figured out the fan was hitting the hose.
Right now the body is off and it is relatively easy to do the right thing
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Burning Brakes
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From: Western New York
As far as the old chain rig goes for limiting engine movement, that wasn't really a "Bubba" trick. GM used it back in 1967. I had a '67 Camaro SS350 that got a recall for bad mounts. Took it to the dealer and they attached a kit that had a mount that went over the engine mount and was then secured with a short cable with an eyelet crimped on each end. When I changed the mounts, myself, I saved the kit and still have it on the shelf somewhere. It was a weird contraption. Would have been easier for Chevy to just change the mount.
Duane
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I did a little more exploring on the energy suspension website and found this picture of their mounts showing the internals
I have what they call here the early style. It looks like one U shaped bracket is locked around another at right angles. This would seem to be pretty safe so I remain curious as to how they broke and whether I should be concerned.
I have what they call here the early style. It looks like one U shaped bracket is locked around another at right angles. This would seem to be pretty safe so I remain curious as to how they broke and whether I should be concerned.
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It is enough engine movement to lift my headers into the steering rag joint
Last edited by gkull; Feb 29, 2012 at 07:27 PM.
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That alleviates my concern that there's a serious safety issue. I was going to pull them out and insert a bolt but I don't think that improves anything. I would mail the mount in to their tech guys and if they are at all responsible they will figure out why this happened.
thanks for the update!
thanks for the update!
Burning Brakes
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From: Marietta GA
I have a big block with headers and run ES poly motor mounts. After my drivers side melted I bought the motor mount shield intended for vehicles with air conditioning. I installed the shield on the driver side along with a fresh motor mount, a few years later I noticed the passenger side was melting too, so I bought another shield and installed it and a fresh mount on the passenger side too. This has totally solved the melting/softening issue.
Last edited by BB68Vett; Feb 29, 2012 at 07:04 PM.
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Thanks BB68, I think you just saved me some future grief. I didn't know such a part existed but I found one at CorvetteAmerica. If the factory created such a part I have to assume they did it to fix an ongoing problem. To use that part I'd have to lift the motor a bit to install the mount.
But .. take a look at my situation
This is an LS3 iron exhaust manifold and it really is pretty close to the mount. Conveniently there is a threaded tab as part of the manifold that already holds an outer shield. Looks like all I have to do is put a shield on the inside similar to what GM provided. I can probably use that machined boss on the block for additional support. The passenger side is pretty similar.
Alternatively, the MM through bolt has the nut on the backside and I can fashion a shield to mount there. I'll play with it and see what looks best.
Cool (literally) and thanks
But .. take a look at my situation
This is an LS3 iron exhaust manifold and it really is pretty close to the mount. Conveniently there is a threaded tab as part of the manifold that already holds an outer shield. Looks like all I have to do is put a shield on the inside similar to what GM provided. I can probably use that machined boss on the block for additional support. The passenger side is pretty similar.
Alternatively, the MM through bolt has the nut on the backside and I can fashion a shield to mount there. I'll play with it and see what looks best.
Cool (literally) and thanks
