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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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I bought a '77 vette in summer of 2010 - ha, this was before I knew anything about corvettes! It took a lot to get it inspected. Last summer I had the interior redone - now I want more power. Someone told me "heads & cams" but I'm not a mechanic. What about tuning, timing and a nice dual exhaust? Anyone out there done this?

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The least expensive way to get decent power from the L-48 engine is to recurve the distributor for best 'performance', rebuild and tune the carb, tune-up the ignition system with new components, and put a set of true dual exhausts on it. If you do anything more, you will essentially have to do a major rebuild of the engine. {New heads require a better cam and a better intake manifold, which requires better headers, etc, etc.} If you go down that road...go all the way.....or not at all.
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Have a 76 with a warmed over L48.Dual exhaust,crower 00320 solid cam cool face lifters,roller rockers,aluminum heads,air gap manifold 570 holley carb.Combo is very streetable and its quick.A Richmond 6 spd trans backs up the motor.Been doing the mods over several years as funds allow...Good luck![IMG][/IMG]
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 02:22 AM
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I would say Long tub headers a must, cam heads & intake make the bigest difference, with the quote you get what you pay for being the truest in hot roding a sbc, dont be skimpy when it comes to the heads, roller cam is always the way to go. Research on the web is the way to go, dart & afr have a wealth of knowladge, the best part about building an engine is researching the build, building it, and seeing how your research paid off. The knowledge you build upon the way is priceless.
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The least expensive way to get decent power from the L-48 engine is to recurve the distributor for best 'performance', rebuild and tune the carb, tune-up the ignition system with new components, and put a set of true dual exhausts on it. If you do anything more, you will essentially have to do a major rebuild of the engine. {New heads require a better cam and a better intake manifold, which requires better headers, etc, etc.} If you go down that road...go all the way.....or not at all.



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Originally Posted by iokepakai
Have a 76 with a warmed over L48.Dual exhaust,crower 00320 solid cam cool face lifters,roller rockers,aluminum heads,air gap manifold 570 holley carb.Combo is very streetable and its quick.A Richmond 6 spd trans backs up the motor.Been doing the mods over several years as funds allow...Good luck![IMG][/IMG]
Dude, what's up with those cast iron manifolds? Is a header upgrade in your future, or do you plan to stay with the ram's horns?


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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Agree with all the above - start with a solid, complete tune. More folks "rediscover" the power in their 'Vette with this process than any other single investment. I'd agree with exhaust next...and the final choice is a "top" - heads/cam/intake. Note that for a top to be effective, an evaluation of the condition of the shortblock is required. Compression and leak-down test as a minimum and also a hard look at the odometer.

Conversations about "tops" have two aspects - originality and budget. Deciding on both of these helps get some specific guidance...otherwise the options are unlimited
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BOB, Did you get your heater constantly on problem fixed?
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I tried everything I could think of & some. At the end of the day, it's still a L48. By the time you rebuild it, to hopefully get what you think you want, it was easier, at least for me, to just put a grate motor in it, done. I got exactly what I wanted & more. I got the motor from Jeg's, pan to air cleaner, for a little over 4K. Upgrades & / or rebuild were close to that. I got 420HP, warranty, & a big smile out of it. BUT & there is always a but, it's a snowballing effect. It's a 77. When I was in there, with motor out of way, & figured I might as well start replacing what looked bad. That ended up being ball joints, bushings, springs, shocks,etc......... Rebuilt the trans, radiator, fixed the core support, & sandblasted / painted everything I could get at. Was it worth it? YES! The parts I replaced were only a few hundred dollars & some time. It took time, all winter, but it is just a real fun car to drive now.The only thing I have to do is change out the rear end. She's got a top end that won't quit but with this kind of power, I think I want stop sign to stop sign.
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Headers don't last here in Hawaii.Keeps the cops away,they don't have much around here to do here except to harass loud cars haha....
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Headers don't last here in Hawaii.Keeps the cops away,they don't have much around here to do here except to harass loud cars haha....
Ya do what ya gotta do to survive, brother! It's just kinda odd seeing cast iron manifolds bolted onto aluminum heads.

I have a 1980 L48, it had an Edelbrock Performer on it when I bought it. I installed an exhaust system from Corvette Central (block hugger headers, 2 1/2" dual exhaust, Magna flow mufflers) re-curved the distributor, and tuned the carb. It made a noticable difference in power and throttle response. Setting up the spark timing properly made the biggest difference, surprisingly, and was by far the cheapest mod. Like, less than 40 bucks. Check out this thread on timing, bro:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...long-post.html


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LS - Motor. Step into the Future. A stock 5.3 will make 100 more hp, better gas mileage and way better drive-ability.
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LS - Motor. Step into the Future. A stock 5.3 will make 100 more hp, better gas mileage and way better drive-ability.
If you have the money to spend, it's definitely something to give a lot of consideration to.


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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BPHORSEGUY
BOB, Did you get your heater constantly on problem fixed?
Yeah, I turned the control to defrost! Ha. Will have to deal with that this year!

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Originally Posted by rguerette
I bought a '77 vette in summer of 2010 - ha, this was before I knew anything about corvettes! It took a lot to get it inspected. Last summer I had the interior redone - now I want more power. Someone told me "heads & cams" but I'm not a mechanic. What about tuning, timing and a nice dual exhaust? Anyone out there done this?

Bob

I'm not sure what you have for a budget, but something that I'd recommend is an entirely different approach. 700R4...it will make your current combination feel a lot stronger and improve your MPG.

http://www.700r4.com/faq/ratiocmp.shtml


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I think Mexican Bob has a very good point.

If your car has a TH350 auto and 3.08 rear gears, adding horse power alone can leave you wanting more... My car has a rebuilt l48 with a th400. With headers and Performer intake, It rear wheel dyno'd at 187 hp. I added heads and cam and got the rear wheel power up to 270 hp. This is a nice motor for me for what I have invested.

However, with 3.08 gears, it was still a dog from a stop. A 2800 torque converter and 3.55 rear gears transformed the car although I had to give up some top end speed and gas mileage.

A 700r4 would be a great first mod. Plenty of torque off the line and overdrive. I myself will be converting to a 2004R in the future.
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Yeah, I turned the control to defrost! Ha. Will have to deal with that this year!

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Crusin' season is coming, is's a simple fix.
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Originally Posted by scottyp99
Dude, what's up with those cast iron manifolds? Is a header upgrade in your future, or do you plan to stay with the ram's horns?


Scott

pick up a set of the early 2.5" ramhorns and you have a set of stock looking manifolds that flow better than most headers...
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
The least expensive way to get decent power from the L-48 engine is to recurve the distributor for best 'performance', rebuild and tune the carb, tune-up the ignition system with new components, and put a set of true dual exhausts on it. If you do anything more, you will essentially have to do a major rebuild of the engine. {New heads require a better cam and a better intake manifold, which requires better headers, etc, etc.} If you go down that road...go all the way.....or not at all.
can someone explain what "re-curving a distributer" involves?
I already have the true dual exhaust and I'm looking to further improve hp on the super cheap and without rebuilding my engine
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