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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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My Q-jet started gushing fuel the other day. I assumed the needle/ seat was the problem. Opened the carb, and indeed, I had gotten some bad gas somewhere and had rust colored sediment in the float bowl. I took it apart, cleaned and rebuilt it, installing a new needle/ seat and a new fuel filter. The nitrophyl float seemed fine (it's not but a couple of years old).

I put it all back together correctly (I know what I am doing), and when I started the car, the carb immediately filled with fuel and was gushing again. I took off the airhorn and everything looks fine.

My question is this: Could my mechanical fuel pump have suddenly started pumping at a higher pressure? I have never heard of this happening, nor can I think of what may cause it, but the possibility that two needle/ seat valves are bad seems unlikely.

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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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to check your needle and seat, remove the carb and then turn it upside down after you relieved the fuel.....blow into the fuel inlet....if you can then the float has not sealed the needle and seat....best case is if you cannot.....this eliminates most of the carb issues unless you missed some rebuilding item

mechanical pumps produce a average 4-6 lbs.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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I can't think of any way the pump could start producing more pressure; it's a simple diaphram pump driven by the cam eccentric.

I agree the issue is most likely in the needle/seat - wouldn't be the first time I've seen a QJet rebuild kit with QA issues
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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your float pin has an arched top that sticks above the fuel bowl and wedges against the carb top to hold everything in place
check to see if the arch is high enough to avoid this problem....if too loose, it will create the issue you describe....good luck
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Get a new float. Its hard to tell if the old one is defective. Its cheap and easily replaced. A heavy float could be causing your flooding issues. The plastic ones are notorious for this problem, they soak up a little fuel and get heavy.

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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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I agree that a mech fuel pump would not increase output pressure, without touching it, per se.

I think the guys have offered other things to check that make more sense. Let us know what you discover and good luck.

Last edited by Dustup7T2; Jan 20, 2012 at 07:10 PM. Reason: correct text
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustup7T2
I agree that a mech fuel pump would not increase output pressure, without touching it, per se.

I think the guys have offered other things to check that make more sense. Let us know what you discover and good luck.
the pump doesn't produce pressure, but it produces flow. it's a constant volume pump. the likelihood of it increasing flow is really unlikely.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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the pump doesn't produce pressure, but it produces flow. it's a constant volume pump. the likelihood of it increasing flow is really unlikely.
Actually it is not a constant volume pump. The diaphragm is not locked to the movement of the push rod/lever. It only moves fuel when the needle opens and allows fuel to enter the carb. There is no direct two-way connection between the lever and the diaphragm. The spring behind the diaphragm moves the diaphragm and fuel out of the pump. Given that fact, there is no way for the pump to deliver more pressure than what it is set during manufacture.
The problem has gotta be either the needle/seat of the float.
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Thanks for the input. I did not think there was any way the pump would just increase output on it's own (although I know you can increase mech pump output preasure by pressurizing the weep hole, it's done to overcome boost in forced induction).

I was already planning to put another new needle/ seat in and replace the float unless someone knew something I didn't.

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