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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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I was wondering if there is anyone using a frt spreader bar on your vettes. I am thinking about getting one because it sounds as though it would make sense. Ecklers offer 2 different types, one says welding on the car needed and one says no welding on the car needed. Also I see sharkbite sells them as well.
If you are using one did you see a noticeable difference?
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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I have a shark bite. and yes I did notice some improvement
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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I have the VB&P spreader bar on my '80. What I noticed most is less rattles and squeeks in the front end and a tighter feel in turns on roads with rough pavement.


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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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I got mine from Speeddirect.com

I installed it when I put in the Dewitt aluminum radiator and Spal fans.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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There is a search function on the Forum. Note the difference between using a stock fan and electrical fans.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...nical-fan.html
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MN80Vette
I have the VB&P spreader bar on my '80. What I noticed most is less rattles and squeeks in the front end and a tighter feel in turns on roads with rough pavement.

Yes, for sure, what HE said, and yes with the electric fans too....goes with '91 vette type induction and serp drive....

welding is necessary to clear a stock fan, no bolt on kits I know of....

I have a VBP setup and been there long time now....10? years...

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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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I rebuilt the entire chassis on a new frame for the 72 in addition to installing the Vette Brakes spreader bar so I don't know exactly what it contributed to the stability of the chassis but it certainly didn't hurt anything!



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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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got mine from vb&p. went from a push like a dump truck to a silly loose condition. does it work ,yes it does. need to adjust it for a good balance but worth it.
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Originally Posted by redwingvette
I got mine from Speeddirect.com

I installed it when I put in the Dewitt aluminum radiator and Spal fans.
Based on the VB&P instructions you have brackets installed backwards and need to flip your brackets to the opposite sides. This will move the spreader bar mount forward a few inches. Not sure how much it really matters in the end but just wanted to mention. Also, your spreader bar won't be under the pulley.

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Just for clarifications I have dual spal electric fans so the fitting will not be an issue. I guess I will go with the one from VB&P. Thanks for everyones input. I appreciate it.
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Speeddirect here.....
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Originally Posted by Frankenvette
Based on the VB&P instructions you have brackets installed backwards and need to flip your brackets to the opposite sides. This will move the spreader bar mount forward a few inches. Not sure how much it really matters in the end but just wanted to mention. Also, your spreader bar won't be under the pulley.

Jim
This set up looks like the weld in design. The bolt in with no welding will put the bar over the front a-arm adjusting bolt, but the weld in allows it to be used with a stock fan and would end up with the bar under the pully.
I would guess that this particular set up started out using the stock fan. (but we all know what happens when we assume)
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Originally Posted by Frankenvette
Based on the VB&P instructions you have brackets installed backwards and need to flip your brackets to the opposite sides. This will move the spreader bar mount forward a few inches. Not sure how much it really matters in the end but just wanted to mention. Also, your spreader bar won't be under the pulley.

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The Speed Direct spreader bar puts the bar in the center so it doesn't make a difference which way you put it on.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Curious, Would the use of solid motor mounts have the same effect?

I have some DOM tube and the heims to make one of these, but with solid mounts, would it be worth it?
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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Pre 78 frames were lighter and prone to cracking. so the spreader bar for them is a good idea.

Rob, the solid motor mounts do make the front end more ridged. But the bending forces of the front spring and upper a-arms might distort the frame somewhat.

I reenforced my front frame after I found a crack where my rear lower a-arm bolt attaches. I never has a problem until I installed All new poly bushings, 700# springs, dual adjust QA-1 semi coil overs and 295 width front slicks. Even my 79 frame wasn't up to the test. Most tracks run CCW so the right front really gets abused
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Thanks George. I was afraid of that. Between the oversized radiator & Spals, and the 4" blower belt, I'm not sure where to put it anymore.

Maybe I'll get a set of those 90 degree belts and mount the bottom pullies sideways.
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Speedirect especially with a mechanical oem fan like I have- no weldind involved and it fits perfectly!

The bar will make a big difference especially on cars like mine where I have spent years eliminating any and all bushing and chassis flex. The front shock towers flex tremendously and the spreader bar stops that movement. My car is much quieter, rides better and steering response is much improved. All c3's should have a spreader bar.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 11:29 AM
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Speed direct one here.
I noticed a huge difference. Then did offset A arms from VB&P and REALLY liked the way the front end bites now.

Before those two mods, my front end pushed SO bad. Now? It will bite nice and hard and my back end will come around nice and controllably. DEF worth it!
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I fabricated my own design spreader bar to clear the off road fan shroud. My bar-to-bracket bolts are vertical instead of horizontal like most ready-made kits. Hard to tell if it alone made that much difference because I installed a Steeroids power R&P and offset upper control arm shafts at the same time. All I know is that part of the engine cradle/shock tower is going nowhere anytime soon. And my front end alignment should not change one whit unless something catastrophic happens like hitting a giant pothole.



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69 Chevy--you built your own, and that is what I enjoy doing. I have a 78, and I've been making measurements and sketching, looking at turnbuckle sizes, etc. As much as I like bolt-on jobs, I really get pumped when I make it.

When you did yours, did you make sketches that you still have? If it's cool with you, I'd like to look at what you did! It looks like SS roundstock--is it 3/4", how long? Did you use 3/8" turnbuckles--size of rod-ends? Looks like you broke heavy ga stainless sheet for the mounts-- When I looked at material cost, it pushes up there with the purchased kits, but maybe you saw ways to save? Amazon now has all kinds of stock metal--ships free with Prime!

It's my first post, so not sure how all this works, but I assume you can email me or post it back?
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