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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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anyone know if you can buy a new c3 shell, but one that is say lighter than the factory shell?

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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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To my knowledge, you cannot buy a new C3 shell any where.

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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by corvettedave383
anyone know if you can buy a new c3 shell, but one that is say lighter than the factory shell?

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All the front clips/body sections I have seen at shows seemed to me to be about the same mass as the original components. Performance wise it would be easier to reduce the mass of the frame - several custom frame makers. Most of the custom frames also have the advantage of using later (lighter) C4/C5 components.

Bang for the buck, as a first step, I would start with unsprung mass. Especially tires / wheels / brake disks - anything that rotates.
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Here's an interesting article on a light C3, might be a little expensive finding one of them though http://www.vetteweb.com/features/vem...tes/index.html
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I know of a couple of race Vettes with lighweight front/rear body parts on them. You can lose around 30-40lbs I think Ecklers has done some of these parts in the past. Check with some of the suppliers, expect the body line and gaps to not ever be perfect and body may warp in changing temprature conditions, the price you pay for SPEED!
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Thanks guys for info

really keen to make my 78 vette as light as possible

are the SRIII motorsports chassis any lighter?

the doors on the C3 seem to weigh a ton, any after market ones?

what makes the C3 so heavy?

any thoughts welcome

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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by corvettedave383
Thanks guys for info

really keen to make my 78 vette as light as possible

are the SRIII motorsports chassis any lighter?

the doors on the C3 seem to weigh a ton, any after market ones?

what makes the C3 so heavy?

any thoughts welcome

cheers

dave
Dave,

You need to tell us what your ultimate goal is. Autocrossing, circuit racing, fuel economy,....etc. Then tell us how much, or little, you wish it to weigh. Then tell us how much money you want to spend, and be realistic here!

Cast iron weighs a lot more than aluminum, and most every part on a Corvette that came from the factory in cast iron has an aftermarket equivalent in aluminum. You would save more weight looking here than at the body.

Engine block, heads, inlet manifold, water pump, AC compressor, PS pump, differential, calipers are the obvious ones to start with. Tubular steel headers, plastic rear spring, two piece rotors etc. are other areas to look at. Replacing power windows with lighter wind up windows saves a few kilograms.

If you do all or most of the above, you will lose over a hundred kilograms and the car will perform a lot better. Leave the body work alone, you could spend thousands of dollars to save tens of kilograms. Even replacing your wheels with real magnesium will save a bunch.

Like I said, tell us what you really want and how much you want to spend and we will give you solid advice.

Regards from Down Under.

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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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My ultimate goal is to make the car as light as possible, not for any particular area in motorsport, lighter means faster

Ive done most on your list, apart from magnesium wheels, window motors, just exploring other areas ive not thought of, but maybe someone has

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Originally Posted by corvettedave383
Thanks guys for info

really keen to make my 78 vette as light as possible

Keep in mind that C3 weights and I think all Corvette weights peeked in 1978/9 and then became lighter as time went by. Emmisions and safety requirements were 2 of the leading causes of weight gain during the 70's. Corvette began to drop in 1980, IIRC thats when the 'batwing' was made from aluminum

A 1970 is hundreds of pounds lighter than your '78.

'70 curb weight: ~3285
'78 curb weight: ~3590
'80 curb weight: ~3490
'12 curb weight: ~3208
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Originally Posted by jim2527
Keep in mind that C3 weights and I think all Corvette weights peeked in 1978/9 and then became lighter as time went by. Emmisions and safety requirements were 2 of the leading causes of weight gain during the 70's. Corvette began to drop in 1980, IIRC thats when the 'batwing' was made from aluminum

A 1970 is hundreds of pounds lighter than your '78.

'70 curb weight: ~3285
'78 curb weight: ~3590
'80 curb weight: ~3490
'12 curb weight: ~3208
its going to be a up hill struggle to reduce weight. but all the emmisions stuff is gone, does anyone know if the C3 shell weighted more compared to previous years, what safety stuff is there adding more weight?

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I'm sure you have seen this thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...loss-mods.html

I have to agree with it's not worth the expense to try to lighten the body. Too much money and too much work as well as taking away from the fit and finish. Lighter is faster and handles better but you get to a point where it's cheaper to build horsepower than it is to take weight off. Of course that's after you have reached the point of no return.
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