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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 01:29 AM
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hi? What difference in performance and HP will i gain if i add a headman long tube headers, remove cat and put on dynomax super turbo mufflers and keeping most of the oem pipes? And or keeping stock headers and remove cat and put on dynomax mufflers? what gain in hp/performance will i get from either methods.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 03:39 AM
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Just adding the long tube headers will improve sound and make you think you added 100 horses under the hood, excellent muffler choice also!
Do it!
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 04:36 AM
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Depending on the condition of your cat converter, could be up to 20 hp. Old style converters are quite restrictive from the start, and running them on carburated cars, isnt doing their life any favors. My buddy with a 79' L-82, went with true duals through most of the factory exhaust, and can definitely feel the difference, especially in high rpm breathing. He also re-jetted the carb, and opened up the air filter hose inlet a bit. He still kept it hosed in fresh air, which is what you're wanting to do.
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Originally Posted by Vette5.5
Depending on the condition of your cat converter, could be up to 20 hp. Old style converters are quite restrictive from the start, and running them on carburated cars, isnt doing their life any favors. My buddy with a 79' L-82, went with true duals through most of the factory exhaust, and can definitely feel the difference, especially in high rpm breathing. He also re-jetted the carb, and opened up the air filter hose inlet a bit. He still kept it hosed in fresh air, which is what you're wanting to do.
What did he do to the inlet hose for the air? Interested in this idea.
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I agree with Tim H. Its one of the best feeling changes for the money you can get. I don't know how much horse power, but I do know feel and it's great.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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If your keeping a cat, definitely get new and improved one out of Summit.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:09 AM
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more ideas pls. Will my sound too loud
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Originally Posted by rzkas
will my car exhaust sound be too loud
That's for the local law enforcement goons to decide!


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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:13 AM
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Just keep it all stock and then you don't have to worry about it being loud if thats a concern.
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Keeping in mind that my 78 L-82 had 220 Net HP when new which is about 180-185 RWHP on a dyno, I have made minor tweaks to a basically stock motor (66,000 miles) over many years with the biggest change being McJacks shorty headers, 2.5 inch duals, and Monza Turbo mufflers. On the dyno last October 2011, the motor produced 233 RWHP. The only other changes are Comp cams roller tipped 1.5, not 1.6, rockers, and a 4175 OEM Spreadbore replacement carb with no modifications to it. I hope my example gives you an idea of the HP potential that exhaust changes can make-it can be very substantial!
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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With a well-designed system, realistically ~20 HP/TQ. To keep it quiet, invest in a good crossover to soften the exhaust note. Matched with an intake, the gains can be more substantial. Budget for a dyno tune after installation.
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Originally Posted by billla
With a well-designed system, realistically ~20 HP/TQ. To keep it quiet, invest in a good crossover to soften the exhaust note. Matched with an intake, the gains can be more substantial. Budget for a dyno tune after installation.
I agree: Budget for a dyno tune. My '80 had a significant bog when I stomped on the throttle from a roll in 1st after I installed a true dual exhaust system. A dyno tune showed that my AF was going extremely lean. The dyno shop owner explained that the intake and exhaust ends of the cycle need to be balanced. A major improvement in exhaust efficiency may require an equal improvement on the intake end.

In my case, a new accelerator pump cam, bigger squirters and a very light vacuum secondary spring balanced the carb with the exhaust, and very light springs on my distributor brings the timing advance in sooner too. NOW I am getting the most from GM Performance 350 HO.
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car is in the muffler shop. I am installing hedman headers, dynomax super turbo, removing cat and replace with a resonator.
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Wait until you pick it up. You won't believe it's the same car.
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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the muffler guy mentioned to me about ground clearance. Will i be able to lower my the car with th long tube headers? Has anyone those it and how is the car, ground clearance and longtube headers
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Originally Posted by rzkas
the muffler guy mentioned to me about ground clearance. Will i be able to lower my the car with th long tube headers? Has anyone those it and how is the car, ground clearance and longtube headers
Depends on what the streets are like in your area. I have Hooker Super Comp headers and I certainly wouldn't be lowering my car with the roads we have around here. I have to be careful with speed bumps, but the headers aren't the lowest point under the car. Corvettes don't have much ground clearance to begin with. My headers didn't change that much.

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the muffler guy mentioned to me about ground clearance. Will i be able to lower my the car with th long tube headers? Has anyone those it and how is the car, ground clearance and longtube headers
I have long tube headers and my '80 is lowered. I've never scraped on anything such as speed bumps. There are other parts under my car that are as low or lower than the headers.

Here are a couple of pictures to show you clearance (about 4") with long tube headers.





And here is a picture of my '80 showing how low it is in front. (I lowered the back end another inch since this picture was taken.)

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Great choice of parts, I would love to hear it with Dynomax mufflers!
My headers are way up off the ground.
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nice ride. What size rim and tire? How did you lowered the front and rear?
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