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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Goodness me! My response was in fact factual and constructive...If I was looking for points for my Mr. Nasty Award, I would have simply posted the beating a dead horse smilie. Hope you have a nice weekend.
Mr nasty award.....thats too funny, i dont think you are guilty this time though
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Mr nasty award.....thats too funny, i dont think you are guilty this time though
I've been undisputed champ for at least 3 years running. There was someone here that seemed to be challenging me for the title but he accidentally turned into a nice guy and said something pleasant. That's a shame.
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Goodness me! My response was in fact factual and constructive-

"There's tons of oils available that already have an acceptable additive package, including adequate zinc (not zink)."

How would I or others know if you were aware of that? If you are upset over the correction of zink vs. zinc- a simple misspelling can throw off search results completely, which I presume you did.

As other have advised, f*rting around with additives is not a good idea and is exactly why the manufacturers caution against.

If I was looking for points for my Mr. Nasty Award, I would have simply posted the beating a dead horse smilie. Hope you have a nice weekend.
With Mike Ward! Are you feeling ok? You just don't seem like yourself lately.
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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Allot of incoming flak on this topic.
I'll just tell you what I decided to do.
I read extensively the oil rec by Billa.
I chose the Brad Penn oil in 10/30 for my 68 BB.
It meets the rec zinc level for a stock 427.
The oil lets me drive my car from 30 something degree days in the fall
to 90 degree August cruise nites. So far so good.
Any additive can disrupt the oils formula and I believe it.
I will use a lead additive in my fuel to reduce wear.
The oil I leave up to the companies who have spent millions on R&D.
Just what works for me.
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
There's tons of oils available that already have an acceptable additive package, including adequate zinc (not zink).

Why f*rt around with miracles in a can?
Mike,
I can't speak for others but for me it boils down to cost.
Yes, I know 'skimping' on oil is the last thing I should do but it's not because I'm cheap.
I guess trying to justify paying a $9 to $15 or more for a quart of oil is a tough nut to crack when you're paying a mortgage and have 4 kids in college and maintaining the motor pool for the whole family- Yes, most of the cars I own are flat tappet so the Zinc issue is a concern.

If the high Zinc oils were priced more in line with other oils (even synthetic), I wouldn't even consider the additives either.

I guess if I saw compelling evidence that the additive is harmful or does nothing, I might be more convinced but I have not been able to find such evidence on-line.

Any chemical or petroleum engineers on this forum?
I'd love to get their input.
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by marshal135
Allot of incoming flak on this topic.
I'll just tell you what I decided to do.
I read extensively the oil rec by Billa.
I chose the Brad Penn oil in 10/30 for my 68 BB.
It meets the rec zinc level for a stock 427.
The oil lets me drive my car from 30 something degree days in the fall
to 90 degree August cruise nites. So far so good.
Any additive can disrupt the oils formula and I believe it.
I will use a lead additive in my fuel to reduce wear.
The oil I leave up to the companies who have spent millions on R&D.
Just what works for me.
Marshal
So you aren't using a Zinc additive but you ARE using a lead additive for your fuel? The whole lead additive/octane booster argument is the same as the oil additive one.
I'm guessing the oil companies have the same stance on additives for their fuels as they have for oil additives for their oil.

I'm just sayin'..
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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If price is the issue use VR1. It is competitivly priced with conventional oils and you don't need to spend the money on the ZDDP additive.
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ezobens
I guess trying to justify paying a $9 to $15 or more for a quart of oil is a tough nut to crack when you're paying a mortgage and have 4 kids in college and maintaining the motor pool for the whole family- Yes, most of the cars I own are flat tappet so the Zinc issue is a concern.
I resemble that remark :-)

There are lots of choices on the list that aren't at that price - it's important to seperate the cost of synthetic from the cost of oil with the right amount of ZDDP. Nothing's going to be as cheap as run-of-the-mill dino oil, but oils like the Lucas, VR1, etc. are in the ballpark - and don't forget about buying in bulk, which can change the price quite a bit.

As an aside, I feel like the "Oil Wars" are pretty much over - at least on the Forum. Folks have the information they need, and have made their decisions. Seems to be a lot less back-and-forth on the subject, although I wish the Mods would move the oil sticky out of the consolodated FAQ as the same old questions still seem to pop up...
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by billla
although I wish the Mods would move the oil sticky out of the consolodated FAQ as the same old questions still seem to pop up...

Ya, very true. The my-headlights-don't-pop-up sticky gets buried too.
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
BTW, Mike. You are still are the King of abuse! Love it.
Apparently not. If 63mako actually agrees with me on something (in writing) I must be slipping.

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With Mike Ward! Are you feeling ok? You just don't seem like yourself lately.
I think Isaiah 11:6 cautioned about this.

"The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them."
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I think Isaiah 11:6 cautioned about this.

"The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them."
i think the third sunday in Easter is having some miraculous effect....
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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Are you 'the young child'?
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Are you 'the young child'?
Mike... Tell them their head looks like a can of oil.
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