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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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nuked my battery with aserious drain (12 vlts). traced it to the starter harness. disconnected that at the firewall connector and drain disappeared. reconnected it and disconnected starter. drain disappeared again. removed starter and tested the armature, brushes, field coil and solenoid. all good. connected the starter to battery cable to the switch cables and bingo the drain is back. Bad ignition switch?
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Check the alternator and make sure you don't have a bad diode in there.
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Most all of the power comes from the starter harness. Naturally it would go away when disconnected. You are most likely barking up the wrong tree. Most drains on that model are bad diodes in the alternator or a bad courtesy light delay module. It would help to know what year though.
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If I had disconnected all terminals at the alternator and drain still persisted would that eliminate the alternator as a cause? Also found that ignition switch would rotate past the locking postion (towards driver) and the drain disappeared. Where is that courtesy light modual?
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Ctsy light delay module is an orange plastic box behind the passenger side dash. Agree, the module and the diodes in the alt are the usual suspects
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Here's a picture,

You can remove the box and connect the two white wires and the lights will go on and off as you open or close the doors or you can get a new delay board from Willcox.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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Disconnected the cd module and still have drain. So with both the alt and this out of the loop I'm looking for something else I guess.
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Also found that ignition switch would rotate past the locking postion (towards driver) and the drain disappeared.
That is odd. I would check that out. Also, you can remove each fuse one at a time and check for the drain.
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That is odd. I would check that out. Also, you can remove each fuse one at a time and check for the drain.

Easiest and most methodical troubleshooting method there is to isolate any electrical issue. But what do I know, I'm just an electrical engineer.
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You need to locate which circuit the drain is on.... To do this you'll need a multimeter...



Then one at a time pull a fuse and see which one makes the draw go away.

When you find out the circuit it's on then you can start troubleshooting that circuit.

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On the starter, there is a black wire with a large terminal, is that connected to a starter bolt or the battery positive terminal on the solenoid?
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Thanks again to Brian, Pete and Willcox vette. I see I didn't tell you I had done the multi meter/fuse tests and came up a bust. Did just put the meter between the ground post and ground cable on vlts DC though, will now try the amp setting. I'll retrace my steps and try pulling and isolating all circuits. The black, large terminaled wire is grounded on a started mount bolt, but as starter isn't even in the car and drain is . . . ?
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Also found that ignition switch would rotate past the locking position (towards driver) and the drain disappeared.
Key at ACC and no drain, I hope someone can explain that!
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Originally Posted by c3stu
If I had disconnected all terminals at the alternator and drain still persisted would that eliminate the alternator as a cause? Also found that ignition switch would rotate past the locking postion (towards driver) and the drain disappeared. Where is that courtesy light modual?
Sounds like you have a bad ignition switch that's staying in "ACC" mode even when turned to the locking position.

Are you using the key release? If you're just stopping at the first detent and yanking the key out, then it might be sitting in the "ACC" position.
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pete - thanks for the great schemeatic, one in manual is poo.
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OK Batman, if it is a bad ignition switch, how do you test for that?
Would disconnecting the harmonica switch prove the problem is in the column?
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OK Batman, if it is a bad ignition switch, how do you test for that?
Would disconnecting the harmonica switch prove the problem is in the column?
I think that would do it, but you'd have to make sure there aren't any other connectors between the column and the main wiring harness.
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The switch controls a lot of things in the car. Just because you unplug it and the draw goes away don't mean much, other than the draw is somewhere in one of those circuits.

There are things that are powered all of the time. There are things that are powered only when you turn the switch to on or acc. You need to methodically check each circuit until you find the culprit. The fact that you had the meter on Volts instead of Amps when you checked makes me think your previous results are suspect. The fact that you have the starter unhooked makes me wonder why anything works unless you have the hots hooked up down there. Thats where the power comes from. Go back and check the fused circuits. Go back and check the alternator.
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The only reason that the ignition switch seems suspect is that a lot of them have been abused over the years (people who yanked out the key without knowing how to use the key release, for instance), it's a high-wear part, and it seems to be showing some flaky behavior already.
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The only reason that the ignition switch seems suspect is that a lot of them have been abused over the years (people who yanked out the key without knowing how to use the key release, for instance), it's a high-wear part, and it seems to be showing some flaky behavior already.
But the electrical part of the switch is down on the bottom of the column, and other than the rod from the tumbler itself, has nothing to do with the key part. It could be that the electrical switch is not adjusted correctly or that the rack gear in the column is broken, or that the bearing housing is broken or loose, but if he can start the car normally, thats not likely.

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