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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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How many is too many????????????????

I replaced the L-88 flywheel on my ZL-1 engine with a stock 327 flywheel in order to make it more drivable. Now the starter drive doesn't want to mesh properly. NOTHING else was changed. Starter is a Powermaster. I have added .140 total thickness of shims........then removed ALL shims...................all to no avail.

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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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were there any shims in place prior to the flywheel? It might only need half a shim.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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is the tooth count and diameter of the flywheels the same? How do you go from a BB flywheel to a SB flywheel? Did you check the clearance between the pinion gear tooth point and the flywheel tooth valley, should be able to fit a paper clip in there.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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The L-88 flywheel IS the SAME diameter as the 327 stock flywheels, they use the same type of starter.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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I'm beginning to think that there is something within the bellhousing that is binding and not allowing the engine to turn. Only items changed were flywheel, a stock 153 tooth, new Sachs clutch disc and diaphragm pressure plate.

Will pull trans and bell tomorrow.........................


Looking forward to it!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Get under the car, and pry the bendix, or starter gear back with a screw driver, and mesh it with the flywheel. use a paperclip as distance between where the teeth mesh. Add shimms accordingly. i did this on my 468 with an MSD starter took an hour . its a pain in the ***, but there is no magic number. each situation is different.
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The problem is that I used an early flywheel (62-67 type, casting # 3791021), which is too thick and thus rubbed againts the cam tunnel plate on the back of the ZL-1 block. I need the later design, thinner flywheel. I'm not sure when GM changed flywheel designs and went with the thinner one, I'm thinking around 1968 or 69.

Anybody got one?
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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the old theory on starter shims is ,
no shims,
one thin shim
or you need a different starter
it still applies today
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Originally Posted by Dr L-88
The problem is that I used an early flywheel (62-67 type, casting # 3791021), which is too thick and thus rubbed againts the cam tunnel plate on the back of the ZL-1 block. I need the later design, thinner flywheel. I'm not sure when GM changed flywheel designs and went with the thinner one, I'm thinking around 1968 or 69.

Anybody got one?
I guess it's a good thing it didn't crank or fire
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MelWff
is the tooth count and diameter of the flywheels the same? How do you go from a BB flywheel to a SB flywheel? Did you check the clearance between the pinion gear tooth point and the flywheel tooth valley, should be able to fit a paper clip in there.
Especially since the BB is externally weighted and the SB is internally weighted.
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That's true for 454 + and 400 sbc. 396, 427 are internal. I run an l88 flywheel on my 331.
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