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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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OK guys, I have used the search function...

1972 Coupe, small block, auto...

I have read all about "fusible links"...

I know some say replace it with a 80's GM voltmeter...

I know there is GREAT debate as to how much juice the ammeter can handle...

I know there are lengthy discussions about "shunts"...

I read that it is really a "millivolt" meter...

After ALL THAT (and more)... CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY (and simply) HOW I CAN DETERMINE IF MY AMMETER IS GOOD OR BAD???? And... HOW TO TROUBLESHOOT???

Symptoms...DEAD

Observations...

-I light up my test light on both terminals of the meter
-I light up my test light on both sides of the fusible links, one at the horn relay, and the other at the wiper motor
-All other gauges and lights function normally, so I know the center cluster gauge has a good ground

NOTE...I have TWO gauges, and BOTH show the same symptoms, so my gut says it probably is a car wiring issue...although I guess it's possible that both gauges may be bad...

Is there anything else I can provide to help troubleshoot?? I DON'T have a multimeter..

Thanks!!!!
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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You realy need a VOM.
But, you can test the meter itself with a flashlight battery and a light bulb and a couple alligator clips or jumper wires
Connect one of the battery to one terminal on the meter the other side through a brake light bulb and the other side of the bulb to the other terminal on the meter, JUST TOUCH IT and watch for the needle to move.
The bulb will not "Draw to much power" it is there to limit the current going through the meter
This is much easier with a multimeter, even a cheap one

Originally Posted by MakoShark72
OK guys, I have used the search function...

1972 Coupe, small block, auto...

I have read all about "fusible links"...

I know some say replace it with a 80's GM voltmeter...

I know there is GREAT debate as to how much juice the ammeter can handle...

I know there are lengthy discussions about "shunts"...

I read that it is really a "millivolt" meter...

After ALL THAT (and more)... CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY (and simply) HOW I CAN DETERMINE IF MY AMMETER IS GOOD OR BAD???? And... HOW TO TROUBLESHOOT???

Symptoms...DEAD

Observations...

-I light up my test light on both terminals of the meter This is correct
-I light up my test light on both sides of the fusible links, one at the horn relay, and the other at the wiper motor Also Correct
-All other gauges and lights function normally, so I know the center cluster gauge has a good ground Good
NOTE...I have TWO gauges, and BOTH show the same symptoms, so my gut says it probably is a car wiring issue...although I guess it's possible that both gauges may be bad...

Is there anything else I can provide to help troubleshoot?? I DON'T have a multimeter..

Thanks!!!!
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MakoShark72
-I light up my test light on both terminals of the meter
To use a test light you need to open the circuit by removing 1 of the wires from the meter.
(both wires going to the meter come from hot sources , so naturally both terminals will be hot even if the meter is open)
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Here is a diagram Sixfooter made to show how the circuit is wired.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SIXFOOTER
You realy need a VOM.
But, you can test the meter itself with a flashlight battery and a light bulb and a couple alligator clips or jumper wires
Connect one of the battery to one terminal on the meter the other side through a brake light bulb and the other side of the bulb to the other terminal on the meter, JUST TOUCH IT and watch for the needle to move.
The bulb will not "Draw to much power" it is there to limit the current going through the meter
This is much easier with a multimeter, even a cheap one
Thanks SIXFOOTER, yes I have planned to buy a VOM for YEARS, then the requirement "goes away" until the next time I need one!! Maybe tomorrow! I'll give the test a shot and report back!!

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Here is a diagram Sixfooter made to show how the circuit is wired.
Thanks Roger..
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
To use a test light you need to open the circuit by removing 1 of the wires from the meter.
(both wires going to the meter come from hot sources , so naturally both terminals will be hot even if the meter is open)
Thought you died.
Plan on getting internet down here.
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Old May 1, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by noonie
Thought you died.
Plan on getting internet down here.
Yes,once I get settled in permanently,hopefully I'll be back down there by Sept of this year.
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