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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
this fixed his, probably wont fix yours
OK, so he can't speak for himself. All I see is a bunch of suggestions. Not the solution.
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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I ordered the 14.xx dollar part from Autozone they don't stock it, they said it will be there by Thursday. I'll see if this is the fix, with my luck I can’t imagine it will work but I’ve spent more money on long shots then 14.xx. If it doesn't work its on to plan B.


"MSD 8491 Tach Drive Adapter, Tang to Square Drive

The standard tach drive for MSD Tach Drive Distributors is a 3/16” tang drive cable. In most cases this type of drive will work, but for those who require the 0.104” square drive (Corvette style), MSD offers a Tang to Square Drive Adapter to fit all MSD Tach Drive distributors"

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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mxz800
I ordered the 14.xx dollar part from Autozone they don't stock it, they said it will be there by Thursday. I'll see if this is the fix, with my luck I can’t imagine it will work but I’ve spent more money on long shots then 14.xx. If it doesn't work its on to plan B.


"MSD 8491 Tach Drive Adapter, Tang to Square Drive

The standard tach drive for MSD Tach Drive Distributors is a 3/16” tang drive cable. In most cases this type of drive will work, but for those who require the 0.104” square drive (Corvette style), MSD offers a Tang to Square Drive Adapter to fit all MSD Tach Drive distributors"
I give you my thanks for replying! Joys of aftermarket parts, however. I stick with GM.
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mxz800
I ordered the 14.xx dollar part from Autozone they don't stock it, they said it will be there by Thursday. I'll see if this is the fix, with my luck I can’t imagine it will work but I’ve spent more money on long shots then 14.xx. If it doesn't work its on to plan B.


"MSD 8491 Tach Drive Adapter, Tang to Square Drive

The standard tach drive for MSD Tach Drive Distributors is a 3/16” tang drive cable. In most cases this type of drive will work, but for those who require the 0.104” square drive (Corvette style), MSD offers a Tang to Square Drive Adapter to fit all MSD Tach Drive distributors"
Did you establish with certainty that your distributor housing is a complete MSD aftermarket unit, or (more probably) a standard GM unit with MSD bits and pieces tacked on top? Makes a big difference.
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
OK, so he can't speak for himself. All I see is a bunch of suggestions. Not the solution.
wasn't a suggestion, but a solution based on his pictures, statements in his original thread, and searching for issues others have had while installing MSD products. Had it not been for his original thread and the pictures he provided, I would have been guessing also. I have over 45 years fixin other folks mistakes.
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Did you establish with certainty that your distributor housing is a complete MSD aftermarket unit, or (more probably) a standard GM unit with MSD bits and pieces tacked on top? Makes a big difference.
quit stirrin the pot
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mxz800
I ordered the 14.xx dollar part from Autozone they don't stock it, they said it will be there by Thursday. I'll see if this is the fix, with my luck I can’t imagine it will work but I’ve spent more money on long shots then 14.xx. If it doesn't work its on to plan B.


"MSD 8491 Tach Drive Adapter, Tang to Square Drive

The standard tach drive for MSD Tach Drive Distributors is a 3/16” tang drive cable. In most cases this type of drive will work, but for those who require the 0.104” square drive (Corvette style), MSD offers a Tang to Square Drive Adapter to fit all MSD Tach Drive distributors"
thanks fer postin' back, they wer' gangin' up


To you inexperienced members , this is the best example of the importance of posting pictures so we can see what you see, our educated guesses , while good , and in most cases correct, will cost you money if you cant communicate

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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Did you establish with certainty that your distributor housing is a complete MSD aftermarket unit, or (more probably) a standard GM unit with MSD bits and pieces tacked on top? Makes a big difference.
good eye, I havent been able to find a small cap msd hei conversion, only the big caps, also havent found an MSD that wasnt polished.
just found the unpolished ones

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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 09:55 PM
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When I talked to the former owner he said he changed from points to “electronic ignition” (His words not mine) he said the tach didn’t work, since it was an automatic he didn’t bother to get a new cable.
We know a new cable wouldn’t have fixed the problem because you guys had me spin the cable end, and the tach jumped. I wish he had been a member here so he could've done it right.

The link with the picture of the msd distributor oldalaskaman posted matched what is in the car right down to the ballast. I can’t keep it original GM because from what I see its all MSD.
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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any chance he gave you a few receipts, I'm still thinking you'll be ok with the bushing
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
good eye, I havent been able to find a small cap msd hei conversion, only the big caps, also havent found an MSD that wasnt polished.
just found the unpolished ones
The OP's unit is in no sense of the word an 'HEI' system. At best it's got a traditional coil with an electronic trigger. I wonder if the former owner bypassed the resistor wire to attach the MSD ballast resistor, if if he's now got two in series?
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
The OP's unit is in no sense of the word an 'HEI' system. At best it's got a traditional coil with an electronic trigger. I wonder if the former owner bypassed the resistor wire to attach the MSD ballast resistor, if if he's now got two in series?
MSD and others market an electronic version of the pointless ignition systems, inexpreienced folks call them HEI, when used with a ballast and a coil, they are basically an air gap, make and break and provide spark. I have one in my 76 installed buy the po, it works fine, I wouldnt have used it , but its there. they are also used as electronic triggers when used with a multi spark box and the ballast is eliminated to allow full use of the box. With those pic's I vote make and break and if his po installed an un-polished version, it all fits. MSD doesnt make a points to air gap conversion that I can find, for the small cap
Every tech.I've been able to find on msd hookup says to bypass oe resister and use theirs coming from switched hot. weather its resister wire or ballast, if its ballast they want theirs in place of. Again based on the pictures, it looks like his po followed the directions. With out a picture of the inside of the op's dist with the cap off and rotor removed, we're just guessing.


to the op , I still think you'll be fine with the bushing.

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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 04:14 AM
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When you say bushing you mean the Tang to Square drive adapter its on it way. Autozone's website says its easy to install we shall see.
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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yes, I think thats what your setup needs
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that is not an MSD distributor.


It appears to be a Chevy distributor with some MSD components.

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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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I've found an msd dist with that finish on both the vacum canister and dist housing, brand new, I think I'll wait till he tries the adapter.
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DRIVESHAFT
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that is not an MSD distributor.


It appears to be a Chevy distributor with som MSD components.


It's a cast iron chevy tach drive distributor. Most likely, the cross gear and drive gear on the shaft are messed up. Replace both and you'll be fine. Let us know whether the "adapter" works - it won't if it's a chevy distributor.
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mx800 try un-scewing the brass bushing and looking at the little gear inside.
(the brass bushing is the same thing the tach cable was screwed on to)
I put a screw driver in the slot,angle a little bit and tap lightly with a hammer,once it breaks loose it will screw right out.
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Those plain finish setups are popular with the ford folks, but many thanks for posting, thats excellent tech.
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v434/mxz800/

Roger I tried but my hands are useless today, I did manage to remove the cap n rotor to get some more photos. What is amazing I put it all back and the car started up without blowing up.
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