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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 02:19 AM
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thinking of doing the 200r4 swap over winter. i have researched the older posts and i understand the 200r will work with my drive shaft and cross member. im not worried about performance as i havent even opened up the secondaries in my car .... yet. i drive like the old man i am. are there any particular years i need to be looking for? how do i distinguish difference between a 700r versus a 200r? will my yoke work also? any help is appreciated.
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...3F046h4vXIq4tQ
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heck yeah! great site. thank you ! one more thing. are there any cars in particular i should look at to pull one? i assume stay away from 6cylinder trannys , right?
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 02:37 AM
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I read that they quit making them in 83-86? and that the full size cars were the better ones, grand nationals, etc. you may need to get it rebuilt unless you can find one already done. They are getting scarce. These folks have a 10% discount going with bowtie, if it helps. bowtie also has an excellent tech. page on their site
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You will be much better off going to a local transmission rebuilder (my advice is to stay away from the "chain" stores) and purchasing an already rebuilt unit outright or on an 'exchange' basis for your present tranny. You can then take it home and install it. You need to know what model of transmission you now have and what speedo drive gear is installed in it (number of teeth). They can then determine what speedo drive gear needs to be in the 200-4R so that it will be properly calibrated for your speedo head. If yours speedo is in error (one way or the other), let them know that too, so they can adjust the tooth count on the new drive gear.

If the tranny shop knows what HP/torque your engine has, they can select a unit that has been rebuilt to handle that amount of power.

In my opinion, this is a MUCH more viable option than taking chances with a salvaged transmission.
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These can be tricky to find on the internet because of the way people list them. It is a 2004R. You should search both ways. I pulled mine out of an 87 monte carlo SS. There is a performance torque converter for them also. I used the following sites to get the right ID.

http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/...feature26.html
http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/oftrn.htm
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should've started my own thread, sorry

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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
I had given up on finding a 2004r and was searching for a 700r4 to swap into my 76 this morning on craigs. A lady was advertising what her non mechanic brother told her was a rebuilt 700r4 that her ex-husband had paid $900 to get rebuilt at a place that specializes in od trans. and just needed to get out of the garage cause the ex was completely out of the picture and a real a44hole. Thinking it was a 700r4 , I took the cash, drove 83 miles, gave the lady the $200 and left with a never installed bowtie overdrive 2004r. totally stoked
btw she had all the installation pieces that she threw in for free

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I never have that kind of luck.
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This may be helpful also.
http://web.archive.org/web/200701281.../thm2004r.html
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great print out to take to the yard.

Also you can check the torque converter for the D5 stamp which indicates the more performance rated converter. The stamp looks like a 1/2 inch tall number 5 stamped all the way around the converter. The D is smaller.

Lots of controversy on the buick/monte/442 boards about what it is actually rated though. Maybe 2k.
Where the tag is located on the body

Close up of a tag

The D5 converter stamp

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excellent info on this thread, added to my favorites, many thanks
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Other than the 442/SS/GN trannys, Late 80's Caddy with 307 Olds power is a good core. Plenty of these in the boneyard. heavy car.

I had a 200 built for a 73 chevelle. 454.(Janis transmission. Akron, Ohio) The only regret is not doing the swap sooner. Picked up a solid 2/10's in the quarter over the old TH 400. lower first gear, less rotating mass I would assume.
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