C3 Collapsed Vaacum Canister
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C3 Collapsed Vaacum Canister
Has anyone seen this happen? I had a new vacuum canister installed a few weeks ago. Today while crawling under the 1982 vette, I saw that the new canister was collapsed like there was a tremendous vacuum force!
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no i have not seen that. after it was replaced ,did the lights work okay ?it would take a lot to collapse a metal vac tank .it is just a coffee can .take the car back to who put it on .
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Strangest thing I have ever seen. Bought new from Ecklers, had it installed lst week. How could there be enough suction to collapse a metal can like you see in the pictures below? Hoses hooked up incorrectly?
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That probably happened because Eckler's started buying those cans from China instead of the U.S.! (ask them) The can needs to be made of adequate strength steel to withstand the normal vacuum levels possible in an internal combustion engine. And, late 70's/early 80's GM engines produced about as much vacuum as possible, given the low compression-puny cammed engines produced back then.
In NO case would that ever happen with any decent quality coffee can made in America.
In NO case would that ever happen with any decent quality coffee can made in America.
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That probably happened because Eckler's started buying those cans from China instead of the U.S.! (ask them) The can needs to be made of adequate strength steel to withstand the normal vacuum levels possible in an internal combustion engine. And, late 70's/early 80's GM engines produced about as much vacuum as possible, given the low compression-puny cammed engines produced back then.
In NO case would that ever happen with any decent quality coffee can made in America.
In NO case would that ever happen with any decent quality coffee can made in America.
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There has been so much high-priced JUNK in the aftermarket vintage car parts "funnel" for so long, it's a wonder these things even run anymore. There are very few suppliers that you can trust to supply good parts...or, at least, to stand behind them when they fail.
I just make it a habit to NEVER buy the low-priced part...and to NEVER frequent the parts stores that sell nothing but the low-priced junk. Even at a 'good' supplier, I'll compare the part I took off to the one they are trying to sell me. And parts that actually do heavy work [like suspension, steering or brake parts]...nothing but the best. My safety is still worth a few buck$ to me.
I just make it a habit to NEVER buy the low-priced part...and to NEVER frequent the parts stores that sell nothing but the low-priced junk. Even at a 'good' supplier, I'll compare the part I took off to the one they are trying to sell me. And parts that actually do heavy work [like suspension, steering or brake parts]...nothing but the best. My safety is still worth a few buck$ to me.
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A buddy of mine and fellow forum member here with a '69 convertible had the same thing happen. Paid a shop to replace the can and while having other repairs made elsewhere they found the new can caved in just like yours. Give's new meaning to aluminum can versus real steel. Gotta love China 
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Actually, it's pretty lame of a supplier to receive a new product [like that can] from a different source and never try it out! WE are supposed to be the 'quality control' in their process.
We buy it; we try it. And, when it doesn't work right, we complain. That's the "modern" vendor's quality control process.
We buy it; we try it. And, when it doesn't work right, we complain. That's the "modern" vendor's quality control process.
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Actually, it's pretty lame of a supplier to receive a new product [like that can] from a different source and never try it out! WE are supposed to be the 'quality control' in their process.
We buy it; we try it. And, when it doesn't work right, we complain. That's the "modern" vendor's quality control process.
We buy it; we try it. And, when it doesn't work right, we complain. That's the "modern" vendor's quality control process.
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Actually, it's pretty lame of a supplier to receive a new product [like that can] from a different source and never try it out! WE are supposed to be the 'quality control' in their process.
We buy it; we try it. And, when it doesn't work right, we complain. That's the "modern" vendor's quality control process.
We buy it; we try it. And, when it doesn't work right, we complain. That's the "modern" vendor's quality control process.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. The canister on the car when I bought it was a folgers can which I thought was someone's cheap fix. Although you can't really see it, I am **** and wanted a legitimate replaccement and thought Ecklers would send me a good product. I e-mailed their customer support and they replied they had never seen that happen on 30 years and it must be the installer's fault. Is anyone aware of where I can buy a good new one? If not, I will have to take Texas Jim up on his offer!
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that has to be one of the most idiotic answers ever, i hope you laughed out loud. how do you hook up a vacuum canister wrong? ecklers has been on a downward slide in my eyes lately. i live 22 miles from them and i have started buying from others and pay shipping
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Rgrimsley, Just let me know. I tried looking up the canister on Eckler's site just to see what they were selling, and I onlysaw a vacuum canister f/ the headlights. I must say that the price f/ that was way high IMO. And then shipping also? WOW! If you pay the shipping, you can have mine. I'd feel guilty charging you f/ it. Again, just let me know.
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To 'cause' that can to fail would mean that someone put a big dent in the side that weakened it enough that full-collapse was just the next step in the failure. But, I don't think anyone (except maybe Eckler's) is that lame.