When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
Are you referring to the Chaparral is the 2J sucker car? The lexan skirts were connected to the suspension to keep them on the ground. It produced 1.5g of down force sitting still. By the help of two JLO fans driven by a single 45 hp two stroke twin snowmobile engine. McLaren argued that the fans where movable aerodynamic devices. Which had been outlawed a few years before due to failures. So the car was outlawed after one year. It was fast, but was plagued with mechanical problems. Always enjoyed reading about those cars.
hey everyone, I am curious, I have a 1975 Stingray with an 80-82 rear bumper, does the little spoiler on the bumper add any downforce or was it solely for looks?
it almost certainly had some effect, i think they thought the pace car spoiler was effective and helped the looks after the rear window was changed . doing it that way was more cost effective as it only used 1 redesigned part. a lot of people didn't like the big window and they needed to update the car.
i talked to a friend that was a engineer for chevrolet some years ago and he told me chevrolet originally wanted the big window on the 68 along with a one piece hatch on the coupe,they needed a support bar so went with a two piece hatch and the big window was too expensive to mold at the time. he wasn't sure it was completely true, and he is now gone. never the less it would be fun to know
it almost certainly had some effect, i think they thought the pace car spoiler was effective and helped the looks after the rear window was changed . doing it that way was more cost effective as it only used 1 redesigned part. a lot of people didn't like the big window and they needed to update the car.
i talked to a friend that was a engineer for chevrolet some years ago and he told me chevrolet originally wanted the big window on the 68 along with a one piece hatch on the coupe,they needed a support bar so went with a two piece hatch and the big window was too expensive to mold at the time. he wasn't sure it was completely true, and he is now gone. never the less it would be fun to know
I believe the C3 was suposed to be a Carrera Top and at the last minute it was made a T-Top. Then the C4 was suposed to be a T-Top and at the last minute it was made a Carrera.
From: Graceland in a Not Correctly Restored Stingray
Originally Posted by coreyt
hey everyone, I am curious, I have a 1975 Stingray with an 80-82 rear bumper, does the little spoiler on the bumper add any downforce or was it solely for looks?
According to factory info publicized back in the day (please don't ask me to dig the reference up after all these years), the PC aero kit improved the drag coefficient by ~15%. But, although it quite obviously improved the lift/downforce equation I've never seen wind tunnel numbers on how much that might be, as what little aero information is out there on our generation doesn't begin to cover all C3 body variations.
As for the late C3 rear bumper’s mini-spoiler, while the 80-82 body almost certainly had the least drag of all C3's (what with the big economy push in latter model years), the 78-79 PC kit likely generates a bit more overall downforce. IMCO, one thing you can bet the house on is that the General made for dang sure both the PC and 80-82 aero packages were balanced. ...something to which anyone who tends to drive fast very often should pay attention. OK, I’ve got to admit that's probably $.06 worth by now...
Of the issues I've experienced on track over the years, loss of aero balance has been among the most diabolical, short of suspension failure. Best not to underestimate this stuff IMCO.
In Mark Donahue’s book, The Unfair Advantage, he mentions rear wings totally transformed a car. How we would go about experimenting to find what works is beyond me. But then again, Mark Donahue was an engineer.
In Mark Donahue’s book, The Unfair Advantage, he mentions rear wings totally transformed a car. How we would go about experimenting to find what works is beyond me. But then again, Mark Donahue was an engineer.
Yup the Daytona and super bird were banned from NASCAR after it was deemed the wing gave them too much of an unfair advantage..... again the wing has to actually be in the path of the wind pushing over the car. This was talked about on a tv special recently narrated by Chip Foose ..... They made a big enough difference in the handling of the 911 cars that you could feel a huge difference in the moterized wing when it changed position.... one position helped fuel economy and the other helped performance from what I remember... many spoilers on factory street cars don't do enough to be effective at accomplishing much but to give the car a certain look..... for example I always thought the late 70's camaros looked bad without it. Then GM discovered they could bolt one to just about anything and call it a sport model.... again marketing over function like the hood scoops and intakes that often don't even work.
I can decide if I'd like one or not on my 74 but in the end I decided to leave it alone.... It already came with the greenwood turbo hood which should send enough of the OCD restoration guys into a tizzy at the shows because its "not stock" and doesn't look like the other 22 c3's in the row at the show...
Last edited by augiedoggy; Jul 15, 2013 at 05:00 PM.