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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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I bought this 78 about 2 months ago, it has been running fine. I thought i would check it's timing. Engine was warm, plugged the vacuum advance, hooked up the inductive timing light. Started the engine, pointed the light at the timing mark and can't find timing mark on the balancer. Shut down the engine, bumped engine until I verified that there was a timing mark on the harmonic balancer. loosened the distributor, started the engine and check it again, moved the distributor about an 1/8 th of a turn and can't find the timing mark in the timing light. What am I missing? What should I be checking
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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positive u hooked up to number one cylinder? driver side closest to front?
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Yep, that would be correct driver side, front
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Your bal. slipped! Go get a new one. This happened to me. The rubber tends to give as it ages and the bal. slips. This puts your mark off.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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How hard is it to replace the harmonic balancer?
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 12:04 AM
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Odds are that the distributor has been re-clocked by #1 cylinder being shifted one plug wire off of the normal location on the distributor cap. Don't assume that the #1 plug wire is located where the "book" tells you. Your best bet is to move the distributor back to where it was, then check for a timing mark on the plug wires on either side of where you think #1 wire should be located.

Once you figure out which wire REALLY goes to the #1 cylinder, your problems will be resolved.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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How hard is it to replace the harmonic balancer?
Not hard at all. One nut. And a puller. Hardest part is taking the fan off to get easy access. But check to see where # 1 is first....
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 08:58 AM
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Am I hurting anything by not having the correct cylinder #1 (Driver, front) not be my timing cylinder? Is it worth the trouble to find TDC on #1 and reset distributor?
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Am I hurting anything by not having the correct cylinder #1 (Driver, front) not be my timing cylinder? Is it worth the trouble to find TDC on #1 and reset distributor?
That is what I would do, start from scratch.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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Found timing mark for #1 is currently at 12:00 position, when I try and adjust the distributor to get to 4 BTDC it becomes very rough. Checked to see if any of the other cylinders would give me the timing mark and none would. So what am I facing? A slipped balancer or a distributor in the wrong spot?
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Definitely a slipped balancer, needs replaced as stated earlier. Hit up the local parts store for a new one and many of the stores will rent the puller for a deposit that is refunded when the tool is returned.
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Ok, How do I make sure its where it's suppose to be?
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Pull out the #1 spark plug and turn the engine till the timing mark lines up. Put a screwdriver in the hole to touch the top of the piston, then rotate the engine in the opposite direction, so the timing mark goes up, probably the piston will go up farther indicated by the screwdriver moving. If the balancer is good the timing mark will line up at 0 when the #1 piston is at the top. Sounds like yours is far enough off that this simple method will tell the story. Also if you remove the lower belt pulleys, there will be a key way inside the bore of the balancer hub which should be either lined up with the timing mark on the outer ring or a very few degrees off depending on the year of the engine.
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Originally Posted by daanbc
Not hard at all. One nut. And a puller. Hardest part is taking the fan off to get easy access. But check to see where # 1 is first....
And when you install the new one, use an extra long bolt or piece of threaded rod and a nut and some washers to pull it onto the nose of the crankshaft.
Don't even think about using a hammer!
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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Thanks for the help, I'll check TDC and if off replace harmonic balancer
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