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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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i have a chance to buy some rims that are 18x8 with 4.5 backspacing all the way around. will this create any problems with clearance any where? Hope this set works i am getting a really good deal on these. Any help please. Thank you
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I wouldn't buy them. Corvettes require 4" backspace on an 8" wheel
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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the offset is 0 so from the corversion chart i found it would be 4.5 back spacing?
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The stock 8x15" ralley wheels have 0 offset = 4" backspacing.

I run 9x16" with 0 offset = 4,5" backspacing and it works fine but i had to move the bracket for the parking brake wire from the outside to the top of the trailingarm.

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Stick with the 4" backspace. It works perfectly and you don't have to worry about clearance.
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Is there a " off the shelf" rim that any one knows of that has correct back spacing ? Want to put bigger rims and tires on. But don't want to spend a ton of money. I want 17 or 18's
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 10:51 PM
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Stick with the 4" backspace. It works perfectly and you don't have to worry about clearance.
what size wheels and tires ? looks good
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RickyBerg
The stock 8x15" ralley wheels have 0 offset = 4" backspacing.

I run 9x16" with 0 offset = 4,5" backspacing and it works fine but i had to move the bracket for the parking brake wire from the outside to the top of the trailingarm.

//Ricky.
Not exactly. Wheel offset is calculated using the overall width of the wheel, which is usually about 1" wider than the advertised width. An 8" wheel is really about 9" wide overall from inner flange to outer flange(advertised widths are measured between the bead seats). 0 offset of an 8" wheel is 4.5" backspace, and stock rally wheels with 4" backspace are -12mm offset.

9" wheel with 0 offset = 5" backspace because the wheel is about 10" overall width. 9" wheel with 4.5" backspace is -12 mm offset.

This link has a handy table for converting backspace and offset:
https://rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#backspace
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Originally Posted by 69autoXr
Not exactly. Wheel offset is calculated using the overall width of the wheel, which is usually about 1" wider than the advertised width. An 8" wheel is really about 9" wide overall from inner flange to outer flange(advertised widths are measured between the bead seats). 0 offset of an 8" wheel is 4.5" backspace, and stock rally wheels with 4" backspace are -12mm offset.

9" wheel with 0 offset = 5" backspace because the wheel is about 10" overall width. 9" wheel with 4.5" backspace is -12 mm offset.

This link has a handy table for converting backspace and offset:
https://rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#backspace
They measure offset and backspacing this way because it makes soooooo much sense. If you just assume the wheel is an inch wider than advertized, it makes sense, which really doesn't make any sense. Does that make any sense?


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Originally Posted by 72blkstingray
i have a chance to buy some rims that are 18x8 with 4.5 backspacing all the way around. will this create any problems with clearance any where? Hope this set works i am getting a really good deal on these. Any help please. Thank you
I have 18x18 wheels with 4.5" backspacing and 255/45-18 tires on my '80. I had very minor rubbing at full lock.

One of our sons is a CNC machinist, so I had him make me a set of 3/8" spacers with an integrated hub centric adapter ring. (Original Corvette wheels are hub centric and after market wheels are lug centric. Adapters make after market wheels hub centric.)





No more rubbing, and the wheels come out to just about where the original wheels were in the wheel well. BTW, I chose 3/8" thick spacers instead of the full 1/2" difference so I wouldn't have to replace the original lugs with longers lugs.

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Originally Posted by MN80Vette
I have 18x18 wheels with 4.5" backspacing and 255/45-18 tires on my '80. I had very minor rubbing at full lock.

One of our sons is a CNC machinist, so I had him make me a set of 3/8" spacers with an integrated hub centric adapter ring. (Original Corvette wheels are hub centric and after market wheels are lug centric. Adapters make after market wheels hub centric.)





No more rubbing, and the wheels come out to just about where the original wheels were in the wheel well. BTW, I chose 3/8" thick spacers instead of the full 1/2" difference so I wouldn't have to replace the original lugs with longers lugs.

Would your son consider making a few more and sell them here on the forum? I'm sure there may be buyers here....me included. I have 1/2" spacers on mine but they do not have the hub lip as yours do. I am also using shank lug nuts to accommodate for the extra distance.
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So I can run the 8.5 wheels with 4.5 back spacing if I use the adapters?
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Originally Posted by 69autoXr
Not exactly. Wheel offset is calculated using the overall width of the wheel, which is usually about 1" wider than the advertised width. An 8" wheel is really about 9" wide overall from inner flange to outer flange(advertised widths are measured between the bead seats). 0 offset of an 8" wheel is 4.5" backspace, and stock rally wheels with 4" backspace are -12mm offset.

9" wheel with 0 offset = 5" backspace because the wheel is about 10" overall width. 9" wheel with 4.5" backspace is -12 mm offset.

This link has a handy table for converting backspace and offset:
https://rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#backspace
I see.
I measure my wheels from the inner surface of the center and to the inboard flange and to the outboard flange. If these measures are the same the wheel has a 0 offset.

One offcourse also need to consider the tyre bulking out outside the rim with a posability of rubbing the trailingarm.

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Originally Posted by rafalc
Would your son consider making a few more and sell them here on the forum? I'm sure there may be buyers here....me included. I have 1/2" spacers on mine but they do not have the hub lip as yours do. I am also using shank lug nuts to accommodate for the extra distance.
Agreed - would be interested in that as well.
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72blkstingray: measure twice and then measure once more. Don't take anything for granted as these cars can be slightly different car-2-car. Also consider the tire sidewall sticking out past the wheel lip. The measurements for most tires can be found on the manufacturer web site(s). This is all simple math - just take your time and measure properly. Here is a link to a web site showing how to measure BS:
http://www.vintagewheelworks.com/tech-backspace.php
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Originally Posted by rafalc
Would your son consider making a few more and sell them here on the forum? I'm sure there may be buyers here....me included. I have 1/2" spacers on mine but they do not have the hub lip as yours do. I am also using shank lug nuts to accommodate for the extra distance.
Yes, he will make more. He can make 1/2" spacers too if you have longer lugs than stock or you are willing to take a chance with stock lugs and less than the lug diameter in threads inside the nut.
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Originally Posted by glackore
72blkstingray: measure twice and then measure once more. Don't take anything for granted as these cars can be slightly different car-2-car. Also consider the tire sidewall sticking out past the wheel lip. The measurements for most tires can be found on the manufacturer web site(s). This is all simple math - just take your time and measure properly. Here is a link to a web site showing how to measure BS:
http://www.vintagewheelworks.com/tech-backspace.php
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We have dimensions to fit BOSS 338 and TT2 wheels now. He can make adapters-only (if you don't need a spacer but want hub centric) or spacer-adapters for other brands if you have the specs.

A CF member who bought the first set for TT2 had a little difficulty getting them on the front hubs and had to dress the front hugs. C3 front and rear hubs have slightly different diameters.

Anyone measuring a different wheel needs to remember that machinists work 3 places to the right of the decimal point. Cast hubs are not very precise. The fit of these adapters or spacer-adapters are at least as precise as stock wheels on the hubs.
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Originally Posted by MN80Vette
One of our sons is a CNC machinist, so I had him make me a set of 3/8" spacers with an integrated hub centric adapter ring. (Original Corvette wheels are hub centric and after market wheels are lug centric. Adapters make after market wheels hub centric.)

These are a work of art! Your son's work is something to be proud of.
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These are a work of art! Your son's work is something to be proud of.
And he makes us Christmas ornaments too!

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