Hey Guys,
I am putting rack and pinion in my 74. The rack is bumping into the after market chrome pan in the lower section of the pan. Its about 4 3/4 inches deep. I need at least one mor inche of clearance. Oh, its a 350 small block.
Anyone know where I can get a low front end pan for this application.
thanks,
shopman1

 

any stock pan?

 

I'm fighting the same problem. I have a '72 and the steering rack is hitting the pan. After research and a tip from a forum member, I'm purchasing a Milodan oil pan model 30700. It is a five quart pan, the sump is 8" deep, and the front pan depth in 3.5" (per Summit). If you need a racing pan, Milodan makes a model 31503 that has a different baffle arangement for oil management. It is appx 7.5" deep at the sump and only 3.875" at the front. Investigate and check it out for yourself to be absolutely sure. Most of the foreign made pans will not fit our cars.
Do a search in the "general" section for "oil pan". There is a great picture of an installed Milodan pan sent in by 7t2vette (model 31503).
Good Luck!

 

im running the Canton, and i have R&P and I run track... its 6qt

15-010 - SBC CRATE ENGINE PAN
Our Price: $199.20
This stock appearing oil pan is for pre-’80 SBC blocks with left side dipstick. It is designed for applications that only have room for a stock oil pan, but require better control. Retains all stock oil pan demensions and capacity. Will work with all starter flywheel combinations. Requires one of our pickups.

The Pan Features:
* Trap Door Baffle
* Crank Scraper
* Slosh Baffle

 

First time poster here..71 C3 Currently instaling Flaming river R&P. I have stroked 350 (383) Deeper pan. Same problem today,Got the R&P mount in, try'd to mount the rack on the support as per the instuctions, would not fit past the headers and A arms . Pulled out the mount again ..Arggg...and bolted up the rack .slid it into place again , no go, rack hit the oil pan. need about another 1/2 to 3/4 inch! Yikes...Ordered Milodon MIL-31070 ,after talking with super guy at Milodon. Its the lowest profile pan they have for a stroked 350.
I knew this was going to be a project when it started but holy cow. I will follow up with pictures and full install story when I get it all working.This is a great forum and I look forward to help others with my findings.

 

I must say that the Teck at Speed Direct is very supportive and he feels that the lower pan will fix this problem. It just touches the steering turn buckle.
Guys thanks for the help and information!!! That is the power of this forum, it rocks.

 

My pan is like 3.5 in the front, the front is not the problem its the middle of the lower section of the pan that is the problem. That is were the Rack fits across it. So we need a pan that is low in the middle kind of like a C6 pan.

 

Kind of costly but if it works I have not problem paying for this.
Just want to make sure it works on a 350 small block for sure!
See picture at Summet.

Milodon Street and Strip Oil Pans 31070

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$249.95
Oil Pan, Steel, Gold Iridite, 6 qt., Chevy, Small Block, LH Dipstick, Fits Vega & Monza, Each
Check Application

Brand:Milodon
Manufacturer's Part Number:31070
Part Type:Oil Pans, Individual
Product Line:Milodon Street and Strip Oil Pans
Summit Racing Part Number:MIL-31070

Rear Main Seal Style:2-piece
Sump Style:Wet
Oil Pan Capacity:6 quarts
Oil Pan Depth (in):7.750 in.
Oil Pan Material:Steel
Oil Pan Finish:Gold iridited
Sump Location:Rear
Baffled:Yes
Kicked Out:No
Stroker Clearanced:No
Maximum Stroke with OE Rod:3.750 in.
Dipstick Provision:Yes
Dipstick Locationriver side
Windage Tray Included:No
Pickup Included:No
Crank Scraper Included:No
Drain Plug Thread Size:1/2-20 in.
Gaskets Included:No
Hardware Included:No
Quantity:Sold individually.
Notes:Specially engineered for Small Block Chevrolet installations in Vega and Monza chassis. Requires thick front seal. Will fit 3.750 stroke with stock or similar rods. If tray is used, it must be cut back using only #4 and #5 mains. Oil pan front depth is 3.750 in.
Milodon street and strip oil pans are designed for performance street as well as drag strip applications. They will fit most stock chassis and steering, as well as most headers. These well-engineered oil pans feature internal baffling that can free up additional horsepower. They're available in deep-sump and low-profile designs and are a necessity where high-volume oil pumps and increased rpm ranges are used.

 

Please note that if you get the milodon pan you will need the longer pickup tube as well.(MIL-18312 OIL PUMP PICK-UP) and it requires the thick front seal gasket.I was told by the Milodon guy that MIL-31070 is about 3 7/8 deep from the front of the pan to sump drop, no incline front to back. The flaming river rack sits just below the second bolt back from the front of the pan. So this should give me at least a full inch of clearance pan to rack...I hope.Should receive pan on friday, if Holiday activities dont get in the way I will mount her up and post a pict.

 

Please post here how you made out and what exactly you got and had to add to get your Rack and Pinion installed. Good work! Want to here how you do!!

Hey, post some pictures of the pan and the rack installed !!

 

One more thing.If you use the Milodon oil pan and the Fel pro one piece gasket, you will need the the thick version. They make a thick and thin front seal version of the gasket.
And most likely you should get the longer studs or bolts as this gasket is fat.
It might be after Xmas before I can post picts of my install. Merry Christmas

 

Here is the new pan milodon MIL-31070 .pickup and studs.
Will follow up with install picts in a few days.

 

here is the old pan. you can see where the rack support was rubbing.the rack itself sits a bit higher than the support, so it was a no go with this pan.

 

Here is the new pickup tube installed. Old one almost fell out when I grabbed it.Yikes.
I put the new one in the freezer overnight and then heated the oil pump with a heat gun for about 3 min. slid in about 85% of the way . Then with 5/8 wrench over the tube I taped it the rest of the way.Tap tap tap for about 10 min. NOTE: you really should take the pump off to do this. I was lucky and without HAMMERING on the pump it went in just fine . You might not be so lucky. If it wont move after a few taps, Pull the pump and do it in a vice. I still need to set the height.Need to get some clay.
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can you "fix" it with a hammer? haha, I couldn't resist

 

That pan looks like the hot tip man!! Please post pictures of the rack and pinion in place and how much clearance you have. Good job.

 

hammer fix was an option

 

based on the post #13 pic, it doesn't look like you need a whole lot. not sure if the new pan you bought can be returned. I would try it, since you have a new pan, the old pan is worthless kinda, so if you screw it up, no big deal. i would knock in the edges(corners)first as this is where the most resistance will be.

 

Doug 1,The shiny rubmark is from the rack support ,The support would fit in, but it was rubbing on the pan. Strike one. The rack iteself sits about 3/4 of an inch above the mounting support. So without pounding the crap out of the pan probably 1- 1.5 inches , it simply would not fit. At this point in my life I would prefer to deal with the problem in a more civilized way. ie: the new pan. I will be replacing this engine in the next year, so I will put the old cleaned up chrome pan back on the engine and sell er off. Putting the new pan on the new engine. So smashing it to bits is not really in my best interest.

 

Looking forward to a picture of the finished product. I expect that with that new pan you will have lots of clearance now.