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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 08:17 AM
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A question guys...

I just finished rebuilding my 1978 PCR; ZZ383, M22, etc. I had Allen's build a chambered system for the car connected to a set of McJacks headers... I'm getting popping out of the exhaust when I take my foot off the gas and am coasting.. Is this normal, or should I be looking for something which causes this?

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A question guys...

I just finished rebuilding my 1978 PCR; ZZ383, M22, etc. I had Allen's build a chambered system for the car connected to a set of McJacks headers... I'm getting popping out of the exhaust when I take my foot off the gas and am coasting.. Is this normal, or should I be looking for something which causes this?

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Joel
It's a common problem on Harley's when we use straight pipes or chambered exhaust .
The usual cause is air getting in from a header flang gasket. I always use stock metal manifold gaskets on my headers. Also the collector gasket can cause this problem too and it doesn't take much of a leak, so you may not hear it but look for the black soot marks.

On really big diameter open pipes we've still had popping after everything is sealed up. At that point we had to adjust the carb and play with timing but some bikes, no matter what you do with a big exhaust they still popped every now and then rolling down hill.
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I have an Allen's chambered system and McJacks shorties also.
It does pop some. I just figured it was the nature of the chambered system. Checked my timing, vac. and plugs. It may be a little lean, but not much...
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Have MAD chambered exhaust. They pop when I slow down. It is how the chambered exhaust is.islands
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Have MAD chambered exhaust. They pop when I slow down. It is how the chambered exhaust is.islands
Guys, Thanks for the input... I might have some leaks around the header/head gaskets... The header bolts keep coming loose and I actually lost two on the road this past Sunday... I'll check the system for air leaks and perhaps enrich the idle mixture a bit and see what happens.

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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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its pretty normal for a free flowing exhaust. a reverse flow muffler normally doesn't do it . glass packs and chambered systems do it a lot. nothing to be concerned about. mine does it and i don't mind a bit. LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES , on my harley and my Vette.
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Popping in the exhaust on deceleration is caused by a lean condition, induced by the free flowing exhaust system. You need to richen up the carb to compensate for the headers and mufflers. This will eliminate the popping.

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How much richening would it take, approximately?
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Popping in the exhaust on deceleration is caused by a lean condition, induced by the free flowing exhaust system. You need to richen up the carb to compensate for the headers and mufflers. This will eliminate the popping.

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Lars;

By enriching I assume you mean idle mixture... When I have my foot off the gas (and it is popping), the throttle plates should be closed and we should be running on the idle circuit.... Is this correct?

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what carb are you using?
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by johnt365
what carb are you using?
It's a Holley 3124 (780 CFM) which was left over from the L78 I had in the past... The carb is jetted for the L78..
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I checked/adjusted my idle mix for max vacuum. Still pops. This with a Quadrajet massaged by Lars.
My plugs looked a little lean (a light tan). Would like to fix it, but it won't be for long. 406 build is at machine shop...
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My guess is Lars is referring to jetting
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Might I suggest the next toy you get yourself be a wideband Air /Fuel gauge. I have found it to be much more helpful than a clock in my Corvette.

I recently converted my pipe size from stock to 2.5 in and installed straight through mufflers. On the way to the exhaust shop the a/f cruise reading was 13.5-13.7. On the way home it was 17.1 to -- . My little 600cfm on my 350 needed 4 jet sizes up and now the cruise is 14.2-14.7

All im saying is an a/f gauge is a valuable tuning tool to help you dial in each circuit of your carb. I use the AEM 30-4100 and put it in place of the clock. Its $175 to know what is going on.

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Might I suggest the next toy you get yourself be a wideband Air /Fuel gauge. I have found it to be much more helpful than a clock in my Corvette.

I recently converted my pipe size from stock to 2.5 in and installed straight through mufflers. On the way to the exhaust shop the a/f cruise reading was 13.5-13.7. On the way home it was 17.1 to -- . My little 600cfm on my 350 needed 4 jet sizes up and now the cruise is 14.2-14.7

All im saying is an a/f gauge is a valuable tuning tool to help you dial in each circuit of your carb. I use the AEM 30-4100 and put it in place of the clock. Its $175 to know what is going on.

A mod ill do when I can get car to shop to weld in sensor
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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The shop that welded the bung in for me had an old O2 sensor in the trash. They cut the pig tail off and gave it to me to have if I needed to plug up the hole.
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