I need to throw this out there............>
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Racer
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I need to throw this out there............>
I don't claim NOR think I know so very much on building engines even though I've been doing it for over 40 years. Ok I did a lil search around on performance ECM chips for the 82, and.....really? This company [I'm not going to name them] claims 60hp increase and 7mpg over stock by just using there chip? 0 really-I'm not sure what planet there located on? if that was the case we crossfire guys would not be spending hrs & hrs on grinding/porting the choked up intake [I would love to get a hold of THAT engineer! 3/4 inch ports!} and/or spending $$$$'s on Renagades & TBI's. 60hp for less than $100???? I'm not that stupid. Heck we'll just buy your 60hp chip, change the oil and be done! I dislike being suckered, don't buy into that crap.
I can ONLY hope someone out there can prove me wrong, because I'll give you $500.00 for 60 more hp. w/a 15min chip change, heck I won't even get my hands dirty! on a otherwise stock 82 Vette.
I can ONLY hope someone out there can prove me wrong, because I'll give you $500.00 for 60 more hp. w/a 15min chip change, heck I won't even get my hands dirty! on a otherwise stock 82 Vette.
Melting Slicks
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From: Woodinville WA
...and my car's a show car. If you look at it in the dark, with the lights off , facing the other direction.
I think you're asking them the wrong question - ask them how. 160* thermostat, race gas, advance the ignition to almost the point it'd ping driving off the ramps and there's 60 hp and it could be 7 mpg at BSFC
It's like EPA numbers - it's merely a number. Still for $500 - headers, lose the cat, and put a flow-through muffler, tune and you'll have the same kinds of increases.... this time, real world.
I think you're asking them the wrong question - ask them how. 160* thermostat, race gas, advance the ignition to almost the point it'd ping driving off the ramps and there's 60 hp and it could be 7 mpg at BSFC
It's like EPA numbers - it's merely a number. Still for $500 - headers, lose the cat, and put a flow-through muffler, tune and you'll have the same kinds of increases.... this time, real world.
Team Owner
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From: Southern Cal Ca
St. Jude Donor '22
i have a chip in an 81.
i doubt it gives me 60hp.
it does improve conveter lock up (stays engaged under load)
and a little better spark curve (more advance)
a litttle richer mixture under acceleration.
I don't feel 60hp
i doubt it gives me 60hp.
it does improve conveter lock up (stays engaged under load)
and a little better spark curve (more advance)
a litttle richer mixture under acceleration.
I don't feel 60hp
Racer
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From: Alvin Texas
I have a chip, lower t-stat, can't tell a real difference in the performance, it does take a little time for the ECM to figure things out after switching the "performance" with the "stock" and vice versa.
Safety Car
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From: Bridgewater nj
I have the stage 1 chip and it woke the car up in the low and mid range but not 60hp. Maybe in some rpm ranges it would be 25lb-ft and maybe 15 HP. The engine still falls on its face at 5000 rpm.
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Racer
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thats what I'm saying..........>
...and my car's a show car. If you look at it in the dark, with the lights off , facing the other direction.
I think you're asking them the wrong question - ask them how. 160* thermostat, race gas, advance the ignition to almost the point it'd ping driving off the ramps and there's 60 hp and it could be 7 mpg at BSFC
It's like EPA numbers - it's merely a number. Still for $500 - headers, lose the cat, and put a flow-through muffler, tune and you'll have the same kinds of increases.... this time, real world.
I think you're asking them the wrong question - ask them how. 160* thermostat, race gas, advance the ignition to almost the point it'd ping driving off the ramps and there's 60 hp and it could be 7 mpg at BSFC
It's like EPA numbers - it's merely a number. Still for $500 - headers, lose the cat, and put a flow-through muffler, tune and you'll have the same kinds of increases.... this time, real world.
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Racer
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now I believe that...........>
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Racer
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And no I didn't even bother.........>
...and my car's a show car. If you look at it in the dark, with the lights off , facing the other direction.
I think you're asking them the wrong question - ask them how. 160* thermostat, race gas, advance the ignition to almost the point it'd ping driving off the ramps and there's 60 hp and it could be 7 mpg at BSFC
It's like EPA numbers - it's merely a number. Still for $500 - headers, lose the cat, and put a flow-through muffler, tune and you'll have the same kinds of increases.... this time, real world.
I think you're asking them the wrong question - ask them how. 160* thermostat, race gas, advance the ignition to almost the point it'd ping driving off the ramps and there's 60 hp and it could be 7 mpg at BSFC
It's like EPA numbers - it's merely a number. Still for $500 - headers, lose the cat, and put a flow-through muffler, tune and you'll have the same kinds of increases.... this time, real world.
thought I'd throw it out there to make someone else laugh also!
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Racer
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And when I say C-4............>
I got my Crossfire PORTED to the MAX by my lonesome and a fully built 355cid under it forged liteweight pistons & rods, low-friction rings, ported later model GM heads, 440/454 cam w/1.6 rockers SS headers. I was fairly pleased at the crank dyno results>no I won't post it. I'm not opening that bag of worms....lets say this your C-4 any yr. better be ready [exception the ZR-1] btw; SuperBuickGuy I also have a T/Buick that might interest you?