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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 10:57 AM
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My 70 convertible is an inch lower on the rear passenger side than the driver side.. The passenger side shock is about an inch more compressed than the driver side. Is the shock the cause of the lean or a symptom of the lean. How can I systematically find the cause? The rear body mounts look good. Thanks.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Does the spring appear to be installed evenly side to side?
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Does the spring appear to be installed evenly side to side?
Look to see if the monoleaf spring bolts that go through the control arms have the same amount of threads remaining under the nut.

In case you aren't aware, this is how the rear ride height is adjusted. Tightening and loosening those nuts adjusts the height up and down. If they are not even, the car will not be even. If they are, you have something else going on.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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Maybe body mount?
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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The spring is mounted evenly. The bolts are each approx. 8 1/2" and the nuts are tightened down evenly. The body mounts are good. The air in the tires is the same. What's next?
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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The AIM gives the ride height and how to check it. For MY 1969 it is on UPC 4, sheet B5, Rear Suspension Geometery. For MY 1970 it may be on a different page, but it'll be close.

Ride height is the difference between the inner and outer pivots of the transverse strut. The ride height measured that way should be 1.63". You measure from the ground to each pivot, subtract the smaller (outer) from the larger (inner) and you have the ride height.

Measuring this way eliminates any error caused by a twisted frame, or the body mounts being damaged, etc. the front ride height is measured in a similar way, for the same reason.

I hope this helps


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PS. You don't say what kind of rear spring you have. I have a VB&P spring, their tech guys recommended flipping the spring side to side, to attempt to level a car that sits lower on one side.

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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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Does anyone think it could be as simple as a weak shock? I'm going to replace the shocks anyway because I think they are cheapies. Would like to identify and fix any other causes while I'm in the area. I will find my a.i.m. Will it be clear to me what the pivots are? can someone describe the pivots or show a picture? Maybe the a.i.m. will be all I need. Thanks
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 01:32 PM
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Shocks don't hold the car up, springs do. Shock absorbers do exactly that and that only; absorb shock!

added: unless they are those craptacular pump-up air shocks popular in the '80s...
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I know this may not be the case but some vehicles are adjusted to be a bit higher on the drivers side to offset the weight of the driver.... I know my truck was set up that way intentionally...
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If you have the steel multileaf spring, one of the middle leaves could be broken. It happened to mine many years ago and I replaced it with fiberglass.
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Originally Posted by 7dSHARK
My 70 convertible is an inch lower on the rear passenger side than the driver side.. The passenger side shock is about an inch more compressed than the driver side. Is the shock the cause of the lean or a symptom of the lean. How can I systematically find the cause? The rear body mounts look good. Thanks.
Where are you taking your measurements?
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Where are you taking your measurements?
Frame to level ground just in front of rear tire, 1/4" lower on passenger side. Top of rear tires to body, 3/4" lower on passenger side. Kind of in conflict with my first post complaining of one inch. I have driven it recently and it appears to change.

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Originally Posted by 7dSHARK
Frame to level ground just in front of rear tire, 1/4" lower on passenger side. Top of rear tires to body, 3/4" lower on passenger side. Kind of in conflict with my first post complaining of one inch. I have driven it recently and it appears to change.
Unfortunately, the fender opening, while the obvious visual point of a car not being level, is also the least accurate. Generally, the manufacturer uses the lower pivot points where the a-arms connect to the chassis, followed by a set point along the frame rails.

Since the Corvette has an easily adjustable rear ride height, I'd measure the distance from the ground to the lower a-arm bolts both front and rear. If the front heights are equal, side to side, AND the rear isn't, then raise the rear a touch, on the side opposite the high front side. Drive it a little and see what happens.

Many times, especially with older cars, the visual differences at the wheel wells, is due to bad body mount cushions allowing the body to "settle".
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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Same issue with mine. It's the monoleaf spring that needs adjustment like few of the members suggested.

I could not get it to be perfectly even after adjusting the nut but it's damn straight and can't hardly tell.
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