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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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This is weird. Firing order on 75 HEI Vette is 18436572. Mine is 71623854. How can it be running? Could previous owner have adjusted timing so that order would work? Next question is what would first step be to get car back to correct order?
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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more than likely when they stabbed the distributor they just stuck it and and started number one were the rotor pointed. I've seen this done before.
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Might have one of those corrected caps on it.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tonybyers
This is weird. Firing order on 75 HEI Vette is 18436572. Mine is 71623854. How can it be running? Could previous owner have adjusted timing so that order would work? Next question is what would first step be to get car back to correct order?
What is it that makes you think the firing order is now 71623854?

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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tonybyers
Mine is 71623854.
How did you determine that?
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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determined that order from looking at repair manual and comparing wires from plugs to positions on distributor cap. how can problem be corrected to right specs?
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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That is an impossible rotation......recheck your wiring....start with #1 wire, check its position to see if it matches rotor pointing with #1 plug at TDC firing position. Then follow stock firing order clockwise.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Might have one of those corrected caps on it.
....looks a corrected cap.
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Pull the left front spark plug, put your finger over the hole and have someone bump the starter until it blows your finger out of the hole. Then look at the timing marks on the balancer and further turn the engine until the line on the balancer and the ) mark on the tab are close to being aligned. Now remove the distributor cap and see where the rotor is pointing. That will be #1 firing position. Go from there.
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Originally Posted by C3 Stroker
....looks a corrected cap.
Can you elaborate on the corrected cap. I've not heard of this.
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The OP's firing sequence doesn't match either an OEM or aftermarket corrected cap

OEM: 18436572

Corrected: 12468357

OP's: 16238547

??????
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I thought maybe a "corrected cap" was the same as a Snipe.
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Originally Posted by C3 Stroker
That is an impossible rotation......recheck your wiring....start with #1 wire, check its position to see if it matches rotor pointing with #1 plug at TDC firing position. Then follow stock firing order clockwise.
C3Stroker is correct -71623854 is an impossible firing order for having 1357 on the driver's side and 2468 on the passenger side. The reason why is simple, the firing order is related to the crank journals (refer to a picture of where the crank journals are)... Recall that when 1 is at TDC, so is number 6; to fire #6 after #1, #6 will be half way down the cylinder! Also note that when #5 is at TDC, so is #8, but this false firing order has #5 following #8, so the #5 is half way down its cylinder when the plug fires!

So, unless you have a crazy crank designed by Salvador Dali, use the standard firing order 18436572, or in rare cases, the 18736542 order for a high dollar 4-7 swap cam. Pull all your old plug wires and start anew!

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Must be a little "leg pulling" going on....
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Guys, it's a corrected cap. He just started with the seven. Look at the firing order again and put the 7 on the front.
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Doesn't sound like a corrected cap after all. A corrected cap has internal cross overs so the wires come out all even on one side and all odd on the other.


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After researching corrected caps on internet I know that is not what I have. Guess best thing to do would be to remove plugs and locate cylinder 1 at TDC, check location of rotor. Then follow firing order while verifying location of piston in relation to rotor. I never before removed anything without marking locations, my mistake this time was thinking I could remember. Painful/time consuming reminder.
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http://boxwrench.net/specs/chevy_sb.htm
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
The OP's firing sequence doesn't match either an OEM or aftermarket corrected cap

OEM: 18436572

Corrected: 12468357

OP's: 16238547

??????
Corrected is actually 12468753

I agree, OP does not have this.
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Lest anyone get the incorrect impression, the firing order of a V8 in ONLY a function of crankshaft and camshaft. Using a so-called corrected cap only changes where the wires are plugged into the cap, NOT the firing order.
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