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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 11:58 AM
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so when i did my cam swap a few months back, i noticed that my intake valves had a lot of carbon build up, and i could imagine that the pistons were just as bad, so i went up to the chevrolet dealership to see if they had any tips/cleaners to take care of this problem, they recommended the AC Delco top end cleaner to me, they said pour half down the carburetor at a high idle then return to idle and dump the rest down it and let it choke out the engine and let sit for 2 hours. i was a little skeptical on how it would work because i had used seafoam before and couldent tell much of a difference. but i got it, around 30$ and after 2 hours, i started it and ran it hard under a high load and man did it smoke, but once it cleared up man does it run great! i had to re set the timing, idle, and idle air screws, it starts easier and idles better! i went to change the spark plugs today and the old ones had about 1k miles on them and they looked very carbon fouled from all the junk the cleaner knocked loose. the part number is X66-P and it WORKS, i cant wait to see what MPG gains i get from this product.
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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No engine in good condition collects carbon that fast. Find out what's wrong with it instead of pouring $30 a bottle miracles in the carb.
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The engine is orignal to the car, no rebuild from 1977
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
No engine in good condition collects carbon that fast. Find out what's wrong with it instead of pouring $30 a bottle miracles in the carb.


Don't see anywhere said how many miles are on this engine.
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1977L48
i went to change the spark plugs today and the old ones had about 1k miles on them and they looked very carbon fouled from all the junk the cleaner knocked loose.
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Don't see anywhere said how many miles are on this engine.
Not relevant. 'Engine cleaners' don't knock stuff loose that sticks to spark plugs.
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Not relevant. 'Engine cleaners' don't knock stuff loose that sticks to spark plugs.

I agree but your the one that said,
"No engine in good condition collects carbon that fast"
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I worked in a Chevrolet / Olds Dealer's shop from 1959-1980 The higher compression engines were especially prone to a ping or rattling noise when accelerated

What I know about the X66-P Top engine Cleaner is it works. In the 60's and 70's when engines developed that "preignition ping" that stuff would eliminate it when used as instructed. It evidently removed something.
We recommended an application about every 3rd 0r 4th oil change and before a tune up.

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Originally Posted by bpassmore
I worked in a Chevrolet / Olds Dealer's shop from 1959-1980 The higher compression engines were especially prone to a ping or rattling noise when accelerated

What I know about the X66-P Top engine Cleaner is it works. In the 60's and 70's when engines developed that "preignition ping" that stuff would eliminate it when used as instructed. It evidently removed something.
We recommended an application about every 3rd 0r 4th oil change and before a tune up.
You're right- we were forced ti use leaded gas in those days which was responsible for the vast majority of 'deposit'.

But that was then.
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and this is now, and i had carbon build up on my intake valves on my L48
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Carbon can be a hard material. being on the intake, it must make it's way through the combustion chamber around the exhaust valve and out. I just hope during that travel, it doesn't scratch the cylinder walls or get hung in the exhaust valves when leaving.
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From what I have read, the GM product actually soaks the carbon deposits and assists in actually burning off the deposits.

Other methods may result in chunks of carbon that could cause problems.

Google can be our friend


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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 1977L48
i went to change the spark plugs today and the old ones had about 1k miles on them and they looked very carbon fouled from all the junk the cleaner knocked loose.
To be clear, the above is what I'm taking issue with. Plugs on a properly operating issue don't become carbon fouled and stuff knocked loose by engine cleaners doesn't end up on the plugs.

IOW- if new plugs are fouled after only 1K miles, there's other issued that need to be addressed.
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