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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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I'm sure most of you hot rods guys know what I'm talking about. Do you think that I can get my car to do this even though it has an IRS suspension in the rear? Thought I would throw it out there.
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 05:15 PM
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That is just the nature of an IRS rear. It will squat on take off. The pinion gear pulls the ring gear down and with it the rear of the car. In a live axle the pinion gear cannot pull the ring gear down due to the solid axle between the rear wheels, so the pinion climbs the ring gear and forces the rear of the car upward thus driving the axle toward into the ground.

You could probably work with the suspension geomentry and minimize the squat but don't think you can get rid of it.

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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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I like it when it "squats".. :cheers: :cheers: :cool:
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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Wouldn't you want the rear end down on take off to transfer weight to the rear tires?
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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Wouldn't you want the rear end down on take off to transfer weight to the rear tires?
With IRS when the rear squats it pulls the wheels up towards the body. In a solid axle it pushes the wheels into the ground. For a drag car you are better off with a solid axle for that reason (plus IRS has more parts that can break).

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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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I like it when it "squats".. :cheers: :cheers: :cool:
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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The Corvette Squat = Good.

I'd think most people would be looking for ways to maximize a desirable characteristic like that.
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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You gotta love that "Squat". :yesnod:
:cheers:
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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What most are forgetting is that the squat also brings with it negetive camber change. Squat is good but this is what it did to an old set of tires I had:


Before you ask, I put those tires on the front of the car so it had something to sit on over the winter. Note the wear pattern. A stiff spring will help keep the tires good and flat while still having the awesome weight transfer 63-82 Corvette's have.


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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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Doesn't the Guldstrand 5-link reduce/eliminate the "squat?" Expensive but :cool:
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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Doesn't the Guldstrand 5-link reduce/eliminate the "squat?" Expensive but :cool:
They still have "squat" but not the camber change that hurts traction.

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Old Jul 4, 2002 | 02:00 AM
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Tire looks OK to me ?? :cheers:
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Old Jul 4, 2002 | 04:17 AM
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Tire looks OK to me ?? :cheers:
. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I love to squat :D
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Old Jul 4, 2002 | 08:31 AM
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Default Re: Can vette's attain AntiSquat? (trw)

They still have "squat" but not the camber change that hurts traction.

Terry
I don't know that anything would eliminate squat altogether, of course I don't know "squat" :jester about suspension tuning either, but just for the sake of it here's the Guldstrand info on the 5-link. No matter what it does it looks cool and I want one :D

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The squat can be kind of cool. First time I took a friend of mine for a ride I came to a stop and punched it. He thought it pulled the front tires! :lol:


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Old Jul 5, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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Thanks for all the great replys. It makes sense that we wouldn't be able to eliminate squat all together. I saw a cool 30's couple with a 502 in a show the other day that was doing anti-squat take off's and it looked cool. I don't mind it at all on the vette. Just wondering if it were possible really. I guess a better route would be just to fix the camber change and be happy.
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Old Jul 5, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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Vettebrakes makes a schweet setup called "smart struts" (I think) that almost completely eliminates camber change at full travel. It is not very expensive and will help with the uneven balding of tires :cheers:

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Old Jul 5, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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You gotta love that "Squat". :yesnod:
:cheers:
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