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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 09:25 PM
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I'm in the middle of dropping a 383 in my '74 right now

You won't be sorry and I'd guess your torque will be in the low 400's.

While my '74 is smog exempt even in California, I would have gone this route anyway over the big block

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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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I'm in the middle of dropping a 383 in my '74 right now You won't be sorry and I'd guess your torque will be in the low 400's. While my '74 is smog exempt even in California, I would have gone this route anyway over the big block
Awesome!!!! Trying to be conservative with HP and Torque. Hahaha

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Originally Posted by MrJlr
I'm in the middle of dropping a 383 in my '74 right now You won't be sorry and I'd guess your torque will be in the low 400's. While my '74 is smog exempt even in California, I would have gone this route anyway over the big block
If you don't mind, how much did your build cost?
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zack McKinney
If you don't mind, how much did your build cost?
I bought a Blueprint Engines crate engine (forum sponsor) for $3700
432hp & 461tq 383 stroker with alum heads and roller cam.
Part# 38313CT1 (Google it)

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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 11:01 PM
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Be aware that alloy heads and intake scream "modified" to any smog technician.

If you can get heads and intake with and "EO" number (Exemption Order I think? Edelbrock used to have these?) they should count a smog legal in most cases an should work. Also, be careful of too much compression, as this can affect other measurements (NOx I think?) during the test.

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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chevygod
Be aware that alloy heads and intake scream "modified" to any smog technician.

If you can get heads and intake with and "EO" number (Exemption Order I think? Edelbrock used to have these?) they should count a smog legal in most cases an should work. Also, be careful of too much compression, as this can affect other measurements (NOx I think?) during the test.

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While it sucks, he could always paint the engine and heads to make it "look" stock and original.

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Originally Posted by MrJlr
I bought a Blueprint Engines crate engine (forum sponsor) for $3700 432hp & 461tq 383 stroker with alum heads and roller cam. Part# 38313CT1 (Google it)
Nice. I would definitely build up my own block, but there will always be other projects. Haha
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by chevygod
Be aware that alloy heads and intake scream "modified" to any smog technician. If you can get heads and intake with and "EO" number (Exemption Order I think? Edelbrock used to have these?) they should count a smog legal in most cases an should work. Also, be careful of too much compression, as this can affect other measurements (NOx I think?) during the test. Good luck, Tom
Yeah, I'll contact a friend who owns a smog station near me and see what he has to say. Thanks!
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MrJlr
While it sucks, he could always paint the engine and heads to make it "look" stock and original.
Yeah, I actually like the idea of keeping it as stock looking as possible, chevy orange block and heads would be nice.
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Originally Posted by chevygod
Be aware that alloy heads and intake scream "modified" to any smog technician.

If you can get heads and intake with and "EO" number (Exemption Order I think? Edelbrock used to have these?) they should count a smog legal in most cases an should work. Also, be careful of too much compression, as this can affect other measurements (NOx I think?) during the test.

Good luck,
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AFR 180 and 195s are EOd.

If the "alloy" intake has EGR and a choke plate it'll go through pretty easy - especially considering many carbed cars had them anyhow. (numerous L-82s, 80-81 Corvettes, and who knows what F-body LG4s and otherwise). I know the Edelbrock 3701 is listed as 50-state legal, though I can't say I've seen an EO for it. The ZZ4 (10185063) intake looks very similar to the factory aluminum intake and has all the emissions hookups.

If you're running A/C, pretty much none of the alloy heads are visible on a late 70's car anyhow. As said, though, paint will solve that.
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Originally Posted by Shark Racer
AFR 180 and 195s are EOd. If the "alloy" intake has EGR and a choke plate it'll go through pretty easy - especially considering many carbed cars had them anyhow. (numerous L-82s, 80-81 Corvettes, and who knows what F-body LG4s and otherwise). I know the Edelbrock 3701 is listed as 50-state legal, though I can't say I've seen an EO for it. The ZZ4 (10185063) intake looks very similar to the factory aluminum intake and has all the emissions hookups. If you're running A/C, pretty much none of the alloy heads are visible on a late 70's car anyhow. As said, though, paint will solve that.
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. Yeah it is hard to see the heads just by popping the hood.
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If the parts have an EO# associated with them, the manufacturer can <usually> supply docs with the parts stating this. Then you should be good to go, without paint.

However, as pointed out above, most enthusiasts know more about what is "smog correct" than the guy testing, so you may STILL have an issue with such allowed/exempted parts.

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