Removing unused CCC stuff
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Drifting
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Removing unused CCC stuff
For those that have removed the CCC (on 81), what did you do with the connectors in the engine compartment? See the pic where I have put a square around the CCC connectors. I would like to basically cut these off. Is that possible? Would it affect anything else? There are several large connectors there.
Thanks,
Jim
Thanks,
Jim
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Don''t cut them!!!
you should be able to remove the WHOLE wiring harness and not affect anything else. you'll have to pull it through the firewall.
Then maybe you could sell the harness, i'm sure someone out there is looking for one.
you should be able to remove the WHOLE wiring harness and not affect anything else. you'll have to pull it through the firewall.
Then maybe you could sell the harness, i'm sure someone out there is looking for one.
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Pro
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yes, the computer harness is "stand alone" for the most part, it does run all the way from the engine to the battery compartment where the computer is, you will have to open up the center console to get to a lot of it.
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Drifting
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Well that is cool. 
The only not cool part is 'removing the console again' !!! 
ugh. Just put in new carpeting. Oh well, maybe wait till next time I have to open that up again.
Thanks
Jim
The only not cool part is 'removing the console again' !!! ugh. Just put in new carpeting. Oh well, maybe wait till next time I have to open that up again.Thanks
Jim
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If you can get "good money" for the entire CCC system, it makes one wonder why you decided to remove it. Actually, you can do quite a bit of upgrading to that '81 engine while KEEPING the CCC system and the benefits of an electronically controlled engine. Just sayin'.....
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Drifting
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Okay it's out!
Not too bad really, only had to remove the drivers seat and the side console panel. At one point I didn't think it would fit through the hole in the firewall but it did. So I guess I'll be listing it in the for sale...
Jim
Not too bad really, only had to remove the drivers seat and the side console panel. At one point I didn't think it would fit through the hole in the firewall but it did. So I guess I'll be listing it in the for sale...
Jim
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If you can get "good money" for the entire CCC system, it makes one wonder why you decided to remove it. Actually, you can do quite a bit of upgrading to that '81 engine while KEEPING the CCC system and the benefits of an electronically controlled engine. Just sayin'.....
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From: Oxford MA-----You just lost the game!!!!
If you can get "good money" for the entire CCC system, it makes one wonder why you decided to remove it. Actually, you can do quite a bit of upgrading to that '81 engine while KEEPING the CCC system and the benefits of an electronically controlled engine. Just sayin'.....
Scott
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If you can get "good money" for the entire CCC system, it makes one wonder why you decided to remove it. Actually, you can do quite a bit of upgrading to that '81 engine while KEEPING the CCC system and the benefits of an electronically controlled engine. Just sayin'.....
I guess the question could also be, "why not chain a 500 lb cement block to your car while you drive?"
That is what you are doing with the 81 CCC. It is a total stretch of the imagination to consider it a computer controlled car. It isn't.
The CCC on a 79-81 is merely an extremely rudimentary, ill conceived, cheaply made, poor performing and badly executed, power robbing smog device.
As for resale value? In my experience, Zero, nada, none, non existent. Check the for sale posts on this forum. I kept mine trying to sell for about a year until I gave up and put it all in the trash. That includes the computer, air pump, charcoal canister...et al.
Someone did buy the dual snorkel air cleaner and the ram horn headers with the air pump fixtures.
By the way, like a bad cancer, it looks like the OP might not have gotten all of that harness. Here is a picture of the entire thing in one piece from my car.
More junk you can toss out:
The air pump and the spider.....junk.
All the air intake crap:
Someone did buy the headers and heat shields. Sheesh, I was practically giving them away at this point:
Image of "unmolested" stock 190hp 1981:
Charcoal canister plumbing:
After a slight upgrade. 400 hp Just sayin
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Speaking of PO's. My 81 had the original motor removed and replaced with a L48. Like the OP, I believe most of the original ccc parts and equipment are still in place. How do I know what to remove? Can you circle the items in one of the pics above?
Thx
Sry to hijack
Thx
Sry to hijack
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"500 lb cement block" 
Always an interesting conversation when it comes to the CCC...
Anyways, in my case it wasn't being used, so an easy decision. But I'm glad, because it simplifies things and makes it easier to understand and certainly reduces the clutter.
Jim
Always an interesting conversation when it comes to the CCC...
Anyways, in my case it wasn't being used, so an easy decision. But I'm glad, because it simplifies things and makes it easier to understand and certainly reduces the clutter.
Jim
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Did you have to loosen or take the fuse box off to get the harness out? All of the ends were cut off of my car when I got it. I need to pull the harness out now.
Last edited by Street Rat; Apr 10, 2014 at 09:18 AM.