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Old May 26, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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Guys I have a question, my car runs good idles good but when I get down on it will backfire out the exhaust when the carb goes on the back 2 barrels. It`s a 383 with a 600 holley and edelbrock manifold. I a thinking it`s to lean on the back side of the carb. I replaced the points with a Pertronix 3 and the rev limit is set at max and my timing is dead on the money. Just cruising around it is no problem but when I wind it up and go through the gears it will backfire. Any suggestions?
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Seems like you need to pull the rear float bowl and see if there is something blocking the fuel flow, have a look at the metering block as well and make sure the jets and passages are clear. From your description it sure seems like your getting lots of air flowing but not enough fuel.
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Old May 26, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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Seems like you need to pull the rear float bowl and see if there is something blocking the fuel flow, have a look at the metering block as well and make sure the jets and passages are clear. From your description it sure seems like your getting lots of air flowing but not enough fuel.
That's kind of what I am thinking
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Old May 27, 2014 | 07:05 AM
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Guys I have a question, my car runs good idles good but when I get down on it will backfire out the exhaust when the carb goes on the back 2 barrels. It`s a 383 with a 600 holley and edelbrock manifold. I a thinking it`s to lean on the back side of the carb. I replaced the points with a Pertronix 3 and the rev limit is set at max and my timing is dead on the money. Just cruising around it is no problem but when I wind it up and go through the gears it will backfire. Any suggestions?
Mis-fire on points?
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Old May 27, 2014 | 07:48 AM
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Popping out the exhaust at higher rpm is usually too much ignition advance. You can easily test this by running the engine in neutral up the rpm range. If it exhibits the popping in an unloaded state, take some advance out of it.

Unless you have done something to the carburetor, I doubt you find this to be a fueling issue.
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Old May 27, 2014 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TedH
Mis-fire on points?
No points read post
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Old May 27, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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Once again boys and girls, backfire is out the intake and afterfire is out the exhaust. You are having an afterfire problem, no?
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Old May 27, 2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gerry72
Popping out the exhaust at higher rpm is usually too much ignition advance. You can easily test this by running the engine in neutral up the rpm range. If it exhibits the popping in an unloaded state, take some advance out of it.

Unless you have done something to the carburetor, I doubt you find this to be a fueling issue.
The carb is a brand new 600 Holley, as for timing I have 32 total at 3000 and 12 at idle with stock springs. It won`t pop unloaded I can take it to 5 or 6 and it sounds great it only pops under load.
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Old May 27, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by claysmoker
Once again boys and girls, backfire is out the intake and afterfire is out the exhaust. You are having an afterfire problem, no?
You are right I should have been more clear
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Old May 27, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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Spark plugs.
New plugs, wires and boots. This is a brand new engine I just built I am going to swap out my old Edelbrock performer carb and see if that gets rid of it but I don`t like it because the fuel in the bowl gets so darn hot even with an insulator plate it boils in the bowl and the Holley is a different design and the fuel doesn`t get so hot.

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Originally Posted by Skip Burney
...but when I get down on it will backfire out the exhaust,..when I wind it up and go through the gears it will backfire. Any suggestions?
Backfire on acceleration could be any of several things:

1) Cracked distributor cap
2) Worn plug wires
3) Loose coil wiring
3) Broken valve spring(s)
4) Prob with carb's enrichment circuits

Start with the easy stuff.
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Originally Posted by Skip Burney
Guys I have a question, my car runs good idles good but when I get down on it will backfire out the exhaust when the carb goes on the back 2 barrels.
Are you saying that you can accelerate with no problem but when you let up on the gas you hear it after fire in the exhaust?
If so adjust your idle mixture screws.
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Old May 27, 2014 | 05:45 PM
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Weak valve spring?
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Had that problem with a69 quite a few years ago. Turned out to be the coil breaking down.Only did it when rpms were up.Would run fine at idle up too about 2000 rpm
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Originally Posted by hugie82
Weak valve spring?
new dual comp cam springs matched to cam
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Old May 27, 2014 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Peterbuilt
Are you saying that you can accelerate with no problem but when you let up on the gas you hear it after fire in the exhaust?
If so adjust your idle mixture screws.
it accelerates fine up to about 4k then it pops out of the exhaust under load
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Old May 27, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by crisko
Had that problem with a69 quite a few years ago. Turned out to be the coil breaking down.Only did it when rpms were up.Would run fine at idle up too about 2000 rpm
now that could be it I used the old stock coil, I am checking the float height and metering block in a few minutes
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Hydraulic cam? Solid cam? Valves adjusted too tight?
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Hydraulic cam? Solid cam? Valves adjusted too tight?
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