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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 03:47 PM
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Hey so I have a 1976 c3 454 big block that's been rebuilt so probably a little larger. When I'm cruising down the highway at 60 mph - ish i'm at 3k rpm. I feel as though this is slightly too high because the engine is roaring and in town i only ever keep it at 1700ish. Should I upsize my tires to reach a target of about 2700 rpm? Sometimes traffic runs at 70-75 mph and i'm having to push the engine in the 3.5k and its really roaring and I feel like I'm eating more gas than I need to. There seems to be plenty space left and could fit a tire considerably larger.

Question: What will this affect?
Is this beneficial?
Is it already good the way it is?
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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Tire size will help a little. Going with 275 60 15 will drop 300 rpm at highway speed. The real fix all is an overdrive trans to give you the modern car feel and gas mileage.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ClaymoreNo47
Hey so I have a 1976 c3 454 big block that's been rebuilt so probably a little larger. When I'm cruising down the highway at 60 mph - ish i'm at 3k rpm. I feel as though this is slightly too high because the engine is roaring and in town i only ever keep it at 1700ish. Should I upsize my tires to reach a target of about 2700 rpm? Sometimes traffic runs at 70-75 mph and i'm having to push the engine in the 3.5k and its really roaring and I feel like I'm eating more gas than I need to. There seems to be plenty space left and could fit a tire considerably larger.

Question: What will this affect?
Is this beneficial?
Is it already good the way it is?
What size on it now? 255/60/15 fronts are about as big as you can get and 275/60/15 rears are about as big as you can get without clearance problems. Any larger and you may need offset railing arms. That's what I put on my 78, but the fronts still rub some.

Unless you want to go larger rims that is what to expect.

Good luck.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 06:46 PM
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The tires won't make much difference. You need different rear end gears or an OD transmission.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bashcraft
The tires won't make much difference. You need different rear end gears or an OD transmission.

I concur. Bigger diameter tires will not give you what you want. You need an overdrive transmission.

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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bashcraft
The tires won't make much difference. You need different rear end gears or an OD transmission.



...and a vote against 275s on 8" rims.
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is 3k at 60mph ok? Maybe i could just leave it. What cruising rpm should i have at highway speeds.

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...and a vote against 275s on 8" rims.
Yes, that too! A 255 is kinda pushing it on an 8" wheel, IMHO.


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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ClaymoreNo47
is 3k at 60mph ok? Maybe i could just leave it. What cruising rpm should i have at highway speeds.
Cruise RPM all comes down to your final drive ratio (FDR). Assuming 27" tires, if you're turning ~3000 at 60 and have a 1:1 top gear, you apparently have a 4:11 out back. If you want to get that RPM down below 2700 it's time to consider changing the rear ratio out to a 3.55:1 (my personal favorite), or if ~2500 RPM is more to your liking perhaps a 3.36:1.
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Remember that if you increase tire diameter your speedometer will still read 60 when the tach reads 3000 although your actual speed will be a little higher.
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Tires wont make much difference.
If you want to cruise 70-75 mph and few hundred rpm's under 3K you are looking at 3:06 gears.
Your BBC probably likes it lower in the rpm range anyways.
I came up with the 3:06's using this:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/gear-speed.php
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Well theirs two questions you have to ask yourself.
1) what speed do you cruise at (truthfully)
2) what rpm do like your engine running at?

I liked my 427 BB at 2800 rpm at 70mph. A 3:08 rear got me close.
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tbh i don't think my speed-odometer is accurate. it could be 10 miles under than how fast I'm really going. Anyone have any suggestions on how to figure out how off it is and then calibrate it?
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My current rear tires are 255 60 15 so i think upping it to 275 60 15 will give about

275/255 = 1.078 = 8% more diameter which will reduce to if my math is correct ( 3000/108 ) * 100 = 2777

I think that's just enough for me to be comfortable in.
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Originally Posted by ClaymoreNo47
My current rear tires are 255 60 15 so i think upping it to 275 60 15 will give about

275/255 = 1.078 = 8% more diameter which will reduce to if my math is correct ( 3000/108 ) * 100 = 2777

I think that's just enough for me to be comfortable in.
Post up your results after you get the tires.
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My rears tires are 305-40-R18's. With 3:70's and a 4L60e, I'm hoping for a cruise speed under 2500 rpm.
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Originally Posted by ClaymoreNo47
tbh i don't think my speed-odometer is accurate. it could be 10 miles under than how fast I'm really going. Anyone have any suggestions on how to figure out how off it is and then calibrate it?
There are calculators online, but unless I missed it, you never mentioned what transmission is installed. 1 of the easiest ways to determine how fast you are going is a gps. Today's handheld units are extremely accurate. If you don't own 1, I'm sure someone you know does. You can test your speedometer accuracy and see if you even need a change. The speedometer gears in a Muncie transmission are color coded for identification, probably the same for a turbo 400.
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Originally Posted by ClaymoreNo47
My current rear tires are 255 60 15 so i think upping it to 275 60 15 will give about

275/255 = 1.078 = 8% more diameter which will reduce to if my math is correct ( 3000/108 ) * 100 = 2777...
Sorry, but I'm afraid that your math is incorrect. The difference in rollout between those two tires is only ~3.49%. 3000/103.49% = 2899, or only ~100 RPM difference.

Given that you're still contemplating 275s, I'll share that the reason I expressed a vote against doing so is that putting that tire on an 8" rim will necessarily result in reduced sidewall stability and noticeably affect your car's handling characteristics. Not saying that you can't do it, just that IMCO you'll be better off if you don't.

In any event, I'd verify your speedo before taking any drastic measures...

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