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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Hi everybody, I have attached some photos of my current door panels, these were installed by PO about 25 years ago. The fit as you can see is terrible, the cards have a rigid black plastic backing and will not attach to the door correctly, they also appear to be too thick compared to originals. I have been looking at various vendors and would like advice on whose products are the best. To import the panels to NZ will be a pretty expensive exercise so I really want to get the best quality and best fitting panels I can. Thanks in advance.

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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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Those look like they're just installed wrong. the top should hook over the metal part of the door.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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The plastic backed panels are reproductions that are notorious for poor fits. They seem to require a lot of massaging with a heat gun to get them to fit properly, if at all. your best fit will be original panels. Good luck with your search.
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Those look like they're just installed wrong. the top should hook over the metal part of the door.
They won't hook over the top of the door, they are too rigid. I have spent a few hours fighting with these and they just do not fit.
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The plastic backed panels are reproductions that are notorious for poor fits. They seem to require a lot of massaging with a heat gun to get them to fit properly, if at all. your best fit will be original panels. Good luck with your search.
Original panels would be perfect! but the chance of finding them in good condition in NZ is pretty small.
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I replaced my door panels about 9 months ago, ordered from Willcox and arrived in a corvette America box. They fit just right.

I change the outside window seals at the same time, they came from Riks Corvette parts in Morganton part # DOR376



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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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They won't hook over the top of the door, they are too rigid. I have spent a few hours fighting with these and they just do not fit.
Read post #3 again.

Using a heat gun is often times needed if the door panel backing is arched and under a lot of tension and WILL not stay at the top. I install door panels quite often at times...and I have found that the two screws that are used at the upper portion of the door panel are CRITICAL. And I have found that using slightly longer screws with the correct spinning washer and some sleeves....allows me to pull the door panel to the door frame and NOT pucker the vinyl and foam of the door panel itself.

These door panels do not just 'fall on" the car. They do take some time...even right out of the box brand new....they take time to get right. I can have an easy hour per panel to get it to fit perfectly....when they are new ...out of the box.

NICE JOB..Peterbuilt.

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Originally Posted by Peterbuilt
I replaced my door panels about 9 months ago, ordered from Willcox and arrived in a corvette America box. They fit just right.

I change the outside window seals at the same time, they came from Riks Corvette parts in Morganton part # DOR376



They look fantastic!
I have noticed how the top rear portion of your panel is almost flat and hooks over the top of the door, mine look very shallow in comparison, photo 1 probably shows this best. Did they require a bit of work to make them fit?
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Read post #3 again.

Using a heat gun is often times needed if the door panel backing is arched and under a lot of tension and WILL not stay at the top. I install door panels quite often at times...and I have found that the two screws that are used at the upper portion of the door panel are CRITICAL. And I have found that using slightly longer screws with the correct spinning washer and some sleeves....allows me to pull the door panel to the door frame and NOT pucker the vinyl and foam of the door panel itself.

These door panels do not just 'fall on" the car. They do take some time...even right out of the box brand new....they take time to get right. I can have an easy hour per panel to get it to fit perfectly....when they are new ...out of the box.

NICE JOB..Peterbuilt.

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Thanks for your comments DUB, do you think mine could be fixed with a heat gun? They have been installed like this for a very long time.
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Hi mr303, how's the windy city? there is a good chance you could still make those panels fit, I fitted new Corvette America panels last year and no they did not fit straight away. Instead of heating the panels I had to bend the door lip out slightly and do the same to the bracket attached to the top of the door panel. Detach one of the panels from the door and then hang it from the top of the door by the lip only then see how far outwards it hangs. If it is 20 deg or less I would say you can get it to fit properly. You may need some heat in your case as well given the age of the plastic it has most likely hardened a bit.
Yup landing panels here will set you back nearly 1k NZ unless you can save some getting them shipped with other gear. There is a contact here in Dunedin that may be able to help with this if needed.
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Hello there Haggis, these door panels are pretty bad, they hang at about 45 degrees if I clip in the tops, some heat may work.
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You may need to bend the top of the door lip inward slightly as well, pretty straight forward to do with a 6" crescent.
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The door panels being produced today are way better than those of 20 years ago.

Make sure the tabs are straight on the door and that the upper portion of the panel will slip over it. Then use a awe through the hole in the door panel clip and use it as a guide to pull the panel toward the door. Once you get the clip screws in place, then install the upper forward and rear screws. (4 in the picture below).

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"The door panels being produced today are way better than those of 20 years ago".

Thank you Willcox, I guess this is what I have been wanting to hear. I really can't see these exisiting panels ever fitting properly, the original instalation was a bit of a hash job by PO, the cut outs for the window winders and door handle area is pretty rough.
Is Willcox able to give me a shipping quote for a pair of new panels if I place an order?
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Not to cause a lost sale for Willcox.

Please post a photo of your door panels straight on so I (we) can see them.

IF the lower front and rear clips (#5 in the picture Willcox posted) at the lower area are still in good shape and can actually hold the door panel to the door in those areas. For the money you can save.... putting a little time into it might be worth it.

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Hi DUB, thanks for the reply. I will post a photo tonight, my panels need to sit more forward on the door as well as sit over the top. PO cut rather large holes for the window winders, the cut on the drivers door is slightly exposed in front of the handle and this will only get worse if the panel moves forward. So Willcox might still get a sale yet.
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Originally Posted by DUB
Not to cause a lost sale for Willcox.

Please post a photo of your door panels straight on so I (we) can see them.

IF the lower front and rear clips (#5 in the picture Willcox posted) at the lower area are still in good shape and can actually hold the door panel to the door in those areas. For the money you can save.... putting a little time into it might be worth it.

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Dub- No worries my friend.. I was telling him above how to get the existing panels on too. I think he can install what he has.

Sometimes it's not about the sale. I'll catch him on something else later hopefully.



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Hi mr303, ring this guy he's just over the ditch from you(Blenheim) Dennis Robinson 03 578 1110, He's imports all corvette parts from the form sponsors and is a ball knowledge
I got new panels last year (landed to the door for less than 1k NZ)and yes they take a little work to fit but it is worth it
all good Dave NZ
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