Tilting radiator backwards
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Melting Slicks
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Tilting radiator backwards
Assuming electric fans on the radiator. How much could you tilt the radiator backwards (= to the motor) ? I think this might be usefull to gain clearance between the radiator and the radiator support on top to get a air inlet tube of 3.5" to pass through the opening.
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Kind of an odd question.
Your biggest issue initially is the fan and shroud. The fan on the motor only has about 1/4 inch clearance with the shroud.
Tipping it back then involves making sure enough coolant gets through the radiator.
Finally, in my humble opinion, you have to worry about sealing the area around the radiator. You still need to get as much air through it as possible.
I wouldn't think laying it down would help with cooling at all.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Your biggest issue initially is the fan and shroud. The fan on the motor only has about 1/4 inch clearance with the shroud.
Tipping it back then involves making sure enough coolant gets through the radiator.
Finally, in my humble opinion, you have to worry about sealing the area around the radiator. You still need to get as much air through it as possible.
I wouldn't think laying it down would help with cooling at all.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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The electric fans solve the fan/shroud issue (as he said, assuming electric fans).
Are C3s really that close to the tipping point as a far as overheating? And how would the angle of the radiator affect coolant flow? I've seen radiators mounted basically flat in some off-road trucks.
Are C3s really that close to the tipping point as a far as overheating? And how would the angle of the radiator affect coolant flow? I've seen radiators mounted basically flat in some off-road trucks.
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Not sure, but I do not think tilting it backwards at the top approx. 1" makes a difference in the water circulating. This is a closed system with a coolant tank.
The limit seems to be the proximity of the A-arm bushings.
The limit seems to be the proximity of the A-arm bushings.
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I know you are looking at running the CAI to the front. If you don't mind changing a few things, here are a couple of ways that come to mind:
Lower the rad and tilt it back a bit. Maybe even a shorter rad but in aluminum to make up the efficiency.
Use a narrower rad and run the CIA to one side. Maybe just enough to have two 2" tubes, or an oval tube merge into your 3.5".
Of course you would need to make changes to the radiator core support, and have your pressure tank, (or some point), as a way to bleed air if the rad is not the high point of the system.
Lower the rad and tilt it back a bit. Maybe even a shorter rad but in aluminum to make up the efficiency.
Use a narrower rad and run the CIA to one side. Maybe just enough to have two 2" tubes, or an oval tube merge into your 3.5".
Of course you would need to make changes to the radiator core support, and have your pressure tank, (or some point), as a way to bleed air if the rad is not the high point of the system.
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It's ugly/experimental......but it works.......
But I like your idea and the looks of a rectangular induction plenum going over the top of the radiator to the air cleaner better.....and since Bubba already cut the top off my project-radiator-support........!
But I like your idea and the looks of a rectangular induction plenum going over the top of the radiator to the air cleaner better.....and since Bubba already cut the top off my project-radiator-support........!
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Do you still have enough cooling capacity with that small radiator ?
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doesn't look like a direct replacement in view of the placement of the connections for the tube though.
I'm going to have a conversation with the radiator shop today about something like that.
What fans would you use with it ?
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that sure is interesting. Was it bought right out or modified ? Were is the radiatorcap ?
doesn't look like a direct replacement in view of the placement of the connections for the tube though.
I'm going to have a conversation with the radiator shop today about something like that.
What fans would you use with it ?
doesn't look like a direct replacement in view of the placement of the connections for the tube though.
I'm going to have a conversation with the radiator shop today about something like that.
What fans would you use with it ?
As for fans, the dual 11" spals should work with a modded or custom shroud.
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(Shroud, aux fan, extra ambient ductwork not shown in the above photo)
This is not something I would do to an original engine bay (since I acquired the car with no mech. fan or shroud--I tried the set-up below).........
There are two 4" ducts drawing ambient air into the round shroud.......hot radiator exhaust-air is diverted to the pavement with the downward vented shroud that is in front of the fan shroud. The only airflow in the engine bay is constant ambient air from the aux electric fan----all experimental at this time.
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I mailed Dewitts, but apparently the cannot do it or won't do it. I received no reply.
Any suggestions on an dual fan setup that is not overly expensive and that fits well on a stock radiator ?
Any suggestions on an dual fan setup that is not overly expensive and that fits well on a stock radiator ?
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