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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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I've noticed that when the car is idling (in neutral) and I depress the brake pedal, the engine increases rpms - 100 - 200 rpms then settles back to the normal 800 rpm setting. The car is an automatic and the brakes seem to work fine. I have just noticed this, so is this a common engine response or do I have some kind of minor vacuum leak, ie brake booster diaphragm, check valve, or hose. Any comments would be appreciated.
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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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that is a normal response in any car from that era with power brakes.
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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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That sympton would indicate that the vacuum booster wasn't holding the vacuum completely. It does not mean that the booster is 'faulty'...just that the seals are a bit worn. There should be no issue of brake function or safety.

If that condition worsens significantly and you become more concerned, you might want to replace the booster unit.

It might also indicate that your carb is running a bit 'rich' at idle, and the added air from the booster (when the brake is applied)...along with the excess fuel in the [rich] intake charge...causes the engine to rev just a bit.

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That sympton would indicate that the vacuum booster wasn't holding the vacuum completely. It does not mean that the booster is 'faulty'...just that the seals are a bit worn. There should be no issue of brake function or safety.

If that condition worsens significantly and you become more concerned, you might want to replace the booster unit.

It might also indicate that your carb is running a bit 'rich' at idle, and the added air from the booster (when the brake is applied)...along with the excess fuel in the [rich] intake charge...causes the engine to rev just a bit.
Hmmm, my car's idle increases a little when I pull the vacuum hose off the white filter.
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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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When I brake hard (while driving) my rpms drop-sometime significantly so that I have to feather in some accelerator to keep the motor running.
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When you apply the brakes with a power-brake system, the vacuum in the servo booster 'works' to assist with the apply force. If the booster is well sealed, there should not be any loss of vacuum or transfer any air between the booster and the intake. But years of use wear seals, and eventually, they will begin to leak a bit. That would allow excess air to enter into the A/F charge in the intake system. And, extra air put into a balanced fuel charge will lean it out.
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Thanks 71vette, great explanation. I believe the brake booster is the original unit. Maybe it is time to replace....
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I have a question. When I pinch my vacuum hose between the intake manifold and booster, the engine dies. Is this normal?
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