Need performance Ideas.. 427 sbc set up undeway
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Need performance Ideas.. 427 sbc set up undeway
I pulled the trigger on a 427 sbc to match Pauldanas build. The major differences will be , intake manifold and i use the EZ EFI 650 hp set up.
Another difference is I have an automatic car .. Currently a stoutly built 700R4 . This can and may have to change.. Any suggestions ?
Here is where I need some help , front end I am going to redo it 100% , clean paint/replace and go to a borgeson unit for steering.
What is best kit for re-bushing of the front and is a coil over system available that is reliable and good ?
Rear suspension > I have a 1980 .. The rear has been rebuilt with aluminum caps replaced (Billet) and gears are 3.92.
Anyone with 600 plus hp and 580 plus torque out here have any solid ideas for a rear set up ? I know i am going to need strength but I also am hoping not have to go to a drag race set up .I would be way happier with a pro touring type of system .. Any ideas ?
And lastly tires and rims .. good grip tires and rims that will work with a made over rear suspension ..EVEN rim style ideas are helpful
Another difference is I have an automatic car .. Currently a stoutly built 700R4 . This can and may have to change.. Any suggestions ?
Here is where I need some help , front end I am going to redo it 100% , clean paint/replace and go to a borgeson unit for steering.
What is best kit for re-bushing of the front and is a coil over system available that is reliable and good ?
Rear suspension > I have a 1980 .. The rear has been rebuilt with aluminum caps replaced (Billet) and gears are 3.92.
Anyone with 600 plus hp and 580 plus torque out here have any solid ideas for a rear set up ? I know i am going to need strength but I also am hoping not have to go to a drag race set up .I would be way happier with a pro touring type of system .. Any ideas ?
And lastly tires and rims .. good grip tires and rims that will work with a made over rear suspension ..EVEN rim style ideas are helpful
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I pulled the trigger on a 427 sbc to match Pauldanas build. The major differences will be , intake manifold and i use the EZ EFI 650 hp set up.
Another difference is I have an automatic car .. Currently a stoutly built 700R4 . This can and may have to change.. Any suggestions ?
Here is where I need some help , front end I am going to redo it 100% , clean paint/replace and go to a borgeson unit for steering.
What is best kit for re-bushing of the front and is a coil over system available that is reliable and good ?
Rear suspension > I have a 1980 .. The rear has been rebuilt with aluminum caps replaced (Billet) and gears are 3.92.
Anyone with 600 plus hp and 580 plus torque out here have any solid ideas for a rear set up ? I know i am going to need strength but I also am hoping not have to go to a drag race set up .I would be way happier with a pro touring type of system .. Any ideas ?
And lastly tires and rims .. good grip tires and rims that will work with a made over rear suspension ..EVEN rim style ideas are helpful
Another difference is I have an automatic car .. Currently a stoutly built 700R4 . This can and may have to change.. Any suggestions ?
Here is where I need some help , front end I am going to redo it 100% , clean paint/replace and go to a borgeson unit for steering.
What is best kit for re-bushing of the front and is a coil over system available that is reliable and good ?
Rear suspension > I have a 1980 .. The rear has been rebuilt with aluminum caps replaced (Billet) and gears are 3.92.
Anyone with 600 plus hp and 580 plus torque out here have any solid ideas for a rear set up ? I know i am going to need strength but I also am hoping not have to go to a drag race set up .I would be way happier with a pro touring type of system .. Any ideas ?
And lastly tires and rims .. good grip tires and rims that will work with a made over rear suspension ..EVEN rim style ideas are helpful
Beejay put the batwing in his 79 and fitted the iron pumpkin. Batwing is already in your car. See no reason why you can't adapt the Iron Diff. You could go coilover as well.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...g-install.html
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Your batwing is already mounted and the trailing arms are the same and also mounted. Everything for the 12 bolt and the 30/31 splined inner/outer axles, 1480 halfshafts are available @ tomsdifferentials.com. Not cheap! Should get the majority of the info you need to figure out the conversion from Beejays detailed post and it shouldn't be too bad to do. Start a thread!
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Your batwing is already mounted and the trailing arms are the same and also mounted. Everything for the 12 bolt and the 30/31 splined inner/outer axles, 1480 halfshafts are available @ tomsdifferentials.com. Not cheap! Should get the majority of the info you need to figure out the conversion from Beejays detailed post and it shouldn't be too bad to do. Start a thread!
Also i do need cash and carry I am never going to fab something myself
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...g-install.html
I think the iron differential bolts directly to the batwing replacing the rear cover with no fabrication needed. Send Bee Jay a PM. Here is a picture of the 63- 79 gasket and 80-82 gasket. Looks like the 8 perimeter bolts are in the same spot. 84 is a totally different bolt layout. Bee Jay has a 80-82 batwing.
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed
http://tomsdifferentials.com/2011catalog/Pages14-23.pdf
I think the iron differential bolts directly to the batwing replacing the rear cover with no fabrication needed. Send Bee Jay a PM. Here is a picture of the 63- 79 gasket and 80-82 gasket. Looks like the 8 perimeter bolts are in the same spot. 84 is a totally different bolt layout. Bee Jay has a 80-82 batwing.
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed
http://tomsdifferentials.com/2011catalog/Pages14-23.pdf
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I pulled the trigger on a 427 sbc to match Pauldanas build. The major differences will be , intake manifold and i use the EZ EFI 650 hp set up.
Anyone with 600 plus hp and 580 plus torque out here have any solid ideas for a rear set up ? I know i am going to need strength but I also am hoping not have to go to a drag race set up .
Anyone with 600 plus hp and 580 plus torque out here have any solid ideas for a rear set up ? I know i am going to need strength but I also am hoping not have to go to a drag race set up .
Chasing the dragon brother... chasing the dragon.....
Yea... I do not know if my way will work or not... i do have a thread on it,,, the rear end anyway
i have gotten every part possible hardened, 30 spline, made in America, and the strongest parts i could find, then i sent all of it off for Cyro treatment, then to REM coating.... should be back together in a week .. won't take more than a day to put it all together and set the lash... then ill go beat it bad... ill let ya know how it turns out
:woohoo :
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...g-install.html
I think the iron differential bolts directly to the batwing replacing the rear cover with no fabrication needed. Send Bee Jay a PM. Here is a picture of the 63- 79 gasket and 80-82 gasket. Looks like the 8 perimeter bolts are in the same spot. 84 is a totally different bolt layout. Bee Jay has a 80-82 batwing.
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed
http://tomsdifferentials.com/2011catalog/Pages14-23.pdf
I think the iron differential bolts directly to the batwing replacing the rear cover with no fabrication needed. Send Bee Jay a PM. Here is a picture of the 63- 79 gasket and 80-82 gasket. Looks like the 8 perimeter bolts are in the same spot. 84 is a totally different bolt layout. Bee Jay has a 80-82 batwing.
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed
http://tomsdifferentials.com/2011catalog/Pages14-23.pdf
Peoples opinion on this. I have Billet caps holding the carrier together and a eaton posi .. I am also an automatic car .If I use or curently have all the larget big block shafts and u - joints do you think it will be tough enough ...
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I am interested in the gear set ,, not there tranny's I got a friend I told to not go to them have 3 grenade (4l60e units , electric 700r4)
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600+ is a lot to ask of a basically stock posi. A guy just posted a picture of his twisted off inner axle behind a ZZ4 auto. The caps aren't the main problem. The entire unit just isn't designed for that much power. That said I think Motorhead has a stock 80-82 rear in his behind a 600 HP W/ TKO600. Don't know for how long.
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600+ is a lot to ask of a basically stock posi. A guy just posted a picture of his twisted off inner axle behind a ZZ4 auto. The caps aren't the main problem. The entire unit just isn't designed for that much power. That said I think Motorhead has a stock 80-82 rear in his behind a 600 HP W/ TKO600. Don't know for how long.
If it is the 1330 joints ill upgrade to the 1350 parts
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I admit I don't own a bat wing setup or a 80-82 rear end. Does a c-4 bat wing actually hold the rear end more rigidly than an improved C-3 cross member or is it just all bling?
I've said it over and over again that limiting rear wheel vertical travel seems to make our rear end and parts last. I'm also a believer when things break then install upgraded parts and I'm big on safety items.
As far as front coil overs. You can buy all new tube a-arms and have a true coil over or rebuild your old and have a QA-1 semi coil over setup.
I've said it over and over again that limiting rear wheel vertical travel seems to make our rear end and parts last. I'm also a believer when things break then install upgraded parts and I'm big on safety items.
As far as front coil overs. You can buy all new tube a-arms and have a true coil over or rebuild your old and have a QA-1 semi coil over setup.
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I admit I don't own a bat wing setup or a 80-82 rear end. Does a c-4 bat wing actually hold the rear end more rigidly than an improved C-3 cross member or is it just all bling?
I've said it over and over again that limiting rear wheel vertical travel seems to make our rear end and parts last. I'm also a believer when things break then install upgraded parts and I'm big on safety items.
As far as front coil overs. You can buy all new tube a-arms and have a true coil over or rebuild your old and have a QA-1 semi coil over setup.
I've said it over and over again that limiting rear wheel vertical travel seems to make our rear end and parts last. I'm also a believer when things break then install upgraded parts and I'm big on safety items.
As far as front coil overs. You can buy all new tube a-arms and have a true coil over or rebuild your old and have a QA-1 semi coil over setup.
I just cant justify replacing the a arms at the costs these guys want
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Thanks ,, the front end looks like it may cost 2k plus to go tubular and as I do not road race I am thinking the moog springs ( supposed to lower car 1 inch) and a full replacement of steering parts including the gear box
I just cant justify replacing the a arms at the costs these guys want
I just cant justify replacing the a arms at the costs these guys want
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600+ is a lot to ask of a basically stock posi. A guy just posted a picture of his twisted off inner axle behind a ZZ4 auto. The caps aren't the main problem. The entire unit just isn't designed for that much power. That said I think Motorhead has a stock 80-82 rear in his behind a 600 HP W/ TKO600. Don't know for how long.
IIRC Monty made his only 11sec 150+mph pass on a stock '80 Dana 44 aluminum rear end behind his 1200HP 427ci turbo small block. They can take a lot more than most think
